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    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post
    R. & J. Beck the maker presumably.
    Apparently so, R J Beck were (are?) mainly a microscope maker of note, I am about to submit a request for information regarding the trials of these scopes with Royal armouries in Leeds.

    Going by the complete Fal book, 19 of the first type were made for trials, I would like to know how many of the second production version (this one) were actually produced.

    I think I be right in saying that this must be the only scope setup that was actually calibrated for the L1A1 specifically, unlike the various attempts at recreating this setup by unit armourers in NI using No32 scopes and cobbled mounts.

    I would assume these must have been made as a very limited trails batch. I'll post any information I can find regarding numbers made and trails results.

    I will be trialling this tomorrow hopefully, weather permitting, though with the .22 conversion kit as I don't want to risk damaging this exceptionally rare item....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrclark303 View Post
    I would assume these must have been made as a very limited trails batch.
    There were also attempts by individual weapon techs. I had a PH sight mounted to a body cover by the local shop for accuracy shooting, which apparently didn't work out. I kept it for years and found it was about perfect. The other optic attempts were noted to have "Flex" in the body cover so until the Germans came out with a more rigid body cover no one had any faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    There were also attempts by individual weapon techs. I had a PH sight mounted to a body cover by the local shop for accuracy shooting, which apparently didn't work out. I kept it for years and found it was about perfect. The other optic attempts were noted to have "Flex" in the body cover so until the Germans came out with a more rigid body cover no one had any faith.
    I've a very similar one Jim, it consists of brazed blocks onto the top cover, with the indent for PH rings, I'll have to dig it out....

    Edit, here she is, like this one Jim?
    I often wondered if this was an Armourers NI 'special' prior to the SUIT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrclark303 View Post
    I often wondered if this was an Armourers NI 'special'
    Peter might know as we had a reward for innovation, a cash sum. Maybe he had the same system. Mine was mounted on the attachments of the old leaf sight for out original C2 "LAR" rear sight. Just one stump at the back half. You might have to resort to looking in an FN book to see, this would date back to the unaccepted rear sight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    Peter might know as we had a reward for innovation, a cash sum. Maybe he had the same system. Mine was mounted on the attachments of the old leaf sight for out original C2 "LAR" rear sight. Just one stump at the back half. You might have to resort to looking in an FN book to see, this would date back to the unaccepted rear sight.
    Sounds like an interesting rig there Jim...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrclark303 View Post
    Sounds like an interesting rig
    It worked great but it was a one off. There had been others I think but had long since gone.
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    Those pix of the cover with the PH compatible blocks look VERY similar to the ones fabricated here in Oz. I wonder if the bloke doing them here had picked up a "sample" in his travels. Sadly, I cannot ask him as he demised over a decade ago.

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