1871/84 Ammo problem

**gunner** · 09-05-2009 01:56 PM

Hello all, i have a few questions about the ammo for this rifle. Where can i get cases and bullets here in Germany icon

or from anywhere abroad ? And wich is the best powder to use. And a complete silly question: the ammo was made til WWI ( since then they used Cordite )so is it possible and good for the health of rifle and shooter to load NC powder ?
Any help is appreciated.

Regards

Gunner

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**Calif-Steve** · 09-06-2009 03:01 AM

Try "Buffalo Arms". Brass and bullets for sale.

**Patrick Chadwick** · 09-10-2009 04:33 PM

... on the second page of the thread list in this forum:

"To carry on where we left off...Smokeless in a Mauser M1871 or 71/84

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... produces poor accuracy.

Reason: the fast pressure onset with smokeless bends the action body to one side like a banana, because of the single locking lug, and the "whip" is transferred up the barrel in addition to the longitudinal shock wave that is always generated in every system. When this whip reaches the muzzle, the resulting deviation produces lousy grouping.

Best performance in that long barrel with the single locking lug will be obtained with the slowest rifle black powder you can get - I use Swiss icon

No. 4 i.e 1 1/2 Fg.

This opinion is not just my own experience, but the common conclusion of the BDMP competition shooters who use these rifles. As this is the 3rd time this year that the question came up on the old Jouster icon

boards, I humbly submit it could be included as an FAQ.

Patrick"

That's enough quoting from myself. read the entire thread, get cases direct from Horneber or via Johannsen. Load with Swiss No. 4. Plenty of lube. Bullets you will have to cast (about 3 to5% tin-lead) and size to 0.446".

Patrick

**gunner** · 09-10-2009 04:47 PM

Patrick, nice to hear from you. Thanks for the reply, we´re testing the loads and hopefully get an usable one.

Regards

Gunner

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