7.62x54r WII sniper ammo

[Micheal Doyne]

Hi all,

Is there a good source for sniper ball ammo specification during WWII. I can find a few references to heavy and light ammo, as well as a fair amount on exploding and incendiary. I am keen to buy or make some ammo as close as possible to WWII sniper ball ammo. I have found some info on 7N1 ammo but I am assuming this is post war?

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[ssgross]

Interestingly, the Russians used a lot of explosive tip rounds in their sniper rifles, and the Germans took up the practice in captured mosins. These rounds were or course prohibited by convention. You can read all about it in the Sepp Allerberger biography "Sniper on the eastern front"

[Micheal Doyne]

Thanks for the reference, I will check it out. I was specifically after info on non explosive/incendiary rounds.

[ssgross]

non explosive/incendiary rounds.

what would be the fun in that!?

[Micheal Doyne]

The ability to shoot them….

[CINDERS]

From my shelves reading it at present almost finished it, yes he uses a captured Mosin sniper rifle to start with the precious exploding bullets, he goes away for training and gets qualified and given a Kar98 sniper weapon, the descriptors of the fights are probably toned down a fair bit so the public could digest it.
In reading between the lines and the Russian armies total disregard for casualties it was probably 10 times as bad than what Sepp makes out it to be, the harsh treatment of captured Germans is pretty graphic captured snipers shared a barbaric end as outlined in the book.
As far as brutality goes its on par with the Devils Guard with the SS veterans from the Eastern front in Vietnam with the French foreign legion after WWII.

[ssgross]

As far as brutality goes

I found the book incredibly raw. But you are right that even with how raw the description is, it was likely toned down.
I wrote a similar review in a Reading List thread I started at the beginning of a lockdown.

Back to the OP's question...I didn't think the Russians had separate lots of ammo just for snipers? Unless he wants just standard tins of ball. In this case, I see them pop up regularly on Gunbroker still, but I think gone are the days when you could by them by the pallet at a penny a round.

[Micheal Doyne]

I found the book incredibly raw. But you are right that even with how raw the description is, it was likely toned down.
I wrote a similar review in a Reading List thread I started at the beginning of a lockdown.

Back to the OP's question...I didn't think the Russians had separate lots of ammo just for snipers? Unless he wants just standard tins of ball. In this case, I see them pop up regularly on Gunbroker still, but I think gone are the days when you could by them by the pallet at a penny a round.

I haven’t seen them pop up in the UK too much sadly. I will have to look harderz additionally my licence only allows of 250rnds of 7.62x54r for now so that might limit by options.

[CINDERS]

If you find some keep them as they are highly collectable with cartridge collectors, besides some of the stuff I've seen on the tube the rounds sometimes work and others not due to a whole lot of factors age being among one of them.

[Micheal Doyne]

If you find some keep them as they are highly collectable with cartridge collectors, besides some of the stuff I've seen on the tube the rounds sometimes work and others not due to a whole lot of factors age being among one of them.

Yes, I tend is experiment a little with original rnds but normally as you say they are a trifle past there best.