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P-14, re-bored to 30-06, now won't feed
I just got a p-14 that someone had chambered in 30-06. The gun was part of a package deal and didn't cost me much.
How can I get it to feed 30-06?
Can I just use a 1917 mag box?
If I change the mag box what else will I have to do?
It's looks to me that the p-17 box mag has no angle on its front and back sides(inside) but the p-14 does. If this is the case would it be a drop in.
Were can I get some schematics with MEASUREMENTS?Would it be cheaper to swap out to a .308 barrel?
I would love to keep this rifle in 30-06, but if I have to drop to .308 in order to make it more than a single shot rifle I will. Please help
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Last edited by supersporter; 03-12-2010 at 09:08 PM.
Reason: I went to the bench to look at the gun and thought
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03-12-2010 08:56 PM
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If it has the .303" SAA (303 British) bolt, it'll not work, regardless! Feed lips are wrong in the receiver, magazine body's wrong, extractor is wrong.
Put a 303 British barrel on it (if you can find one) or part it out.
The whole thing sounds a bit scary. Who comes up w/ these ideas?
Sorry, not blaming you!
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He's right, the whole gun's different.
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The gun functions right now well with a 1917 bolt, and a 30-06 barrel. From all the schematics I can fint it looks like the box mag should drop right in. I have a good backround in engineering so I can read and interperate specks. If I could find some with measurements I could see just what I had to do.
As for moving it back to .303 that is way to much money for me. It has been totaly redune by the last owner, and not very well. If some one has photes of the two box mags side by side I think that could show me if my plan is posible. I have read some times guiy "misstakenly" have 1917 box mags in a p-14 and it won't feed. I hope that will solve my problem.
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Good luck, then. Drawings, never heard of factory blueprints floating about, but...
I've done a wee bit w/ my "North Avenue Trade School" experience, but mostly have wasted my degree in a machine shop.
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For the Ordnance drawings of the M1917, Eric Nicolaus has reprinted them in book form (137 pages).
Look for Nicolaus Associates, and then go to his M1917 stuff. The book has 3 or 4 pages of receiver drawings. P14 to 30-06, interesting project, have fun.
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That's very good to know! Don't know why... But hopefully it will only be used for good... Beware the Dark Side!... Dang, its late...
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I have both mag boxs in front of me. I don't have any good way to do pics but I'll give you some measurements so you can figure it out.
1917 P-14
front width .897 .93
rear width 1.03 1.12
length 3.82 3.70
The rear tab that fits into the receiver on the p-14 mag is 1.04 and on the 1917 mag is .918.
You could also order them from springfield sporters. They are $10 and $5.
john
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Aren't the receiver dimensions different, Model of 1917 vs Pattern 14?
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If anything I think you wil find the the bottom of the receiver where the magazine box goes is not contour milled to be right in feeding the 30 caliber cartridge. Dang it's cheaper to have acquired a Mod1917 than to have done all that "work" on a patt'14.