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garand video
i think the stuff about the ping is bee ess.
any ww11 grunt could reload a garand in about a half a nanosecond.
http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id...s_m1garand.php
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Last edited by goo; 06-29-2009 at 03:51 PM.
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06-29-2009 03:49 PM
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I never bought into the "ping" story either. It just doesn't pass the smell test. It has to make several BIG assumptions which just aren't true.
First the idea that in the noise of war you could even hear the ping. Second the enemy solder would have to be Sooooo close that he could hear the ping then somehow rush an close on the soldier before he reloaded? Unless your shooting at each other from 10 feet it never happened. Then you have to assume the solder didnt have a side arm, a grenade a knife..
Finally it assumes the solder is alone. That the guy next to him is magically out of ammo at the same time.
Who knows when the story started but its a bunch of cow pies.
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There's a simple answer to this recurrent question. Ask those on the receiving end of M-1 fire what they did when they were in a firefight. Did they listen for the "ping" or did they keep their head down and hope to live? Really, it would be of interest to see if they say they actually could hear or sought to listen for the "ping." Other than the statements of those who actually used or took fire from soldiers armed with M-1 rifles, any other suppositions lack factual support. JMHO. Sincerely. BruceV.
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Ping photos from SPR
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/5/...M1Garand-4.jpg
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http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/1/...1Garand-10.jpg
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seems to me the last round out a of a mauser or an arisika whould be evident by the
"oh, sh*t!"
from the kraut or the jap.
Last edited by goo; 06-30-2009 at 11:42 AM.
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I did ask my Uncle, a Combat marine, who made most of the battles in the Pacific.
It wasn't a problem. Not everyone ran out of ammunition at the same time and everything was so noisy that how would you ever hear it. He was more concerned about taking cover and digging in when ever he had a chance.
He did get his first M-1 by borrowing it from the Army. He did leave his 1903 and a bandoleers of ammunition for the the trade.
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Dad did mention several times to me that the Germans were listening for the "ping", but never said if it was more than anything eles that needed to be paid attention to, and more than a few times the combat was extremely close, bayonet close, especially in Italy. Just my cent and a half contribution.
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Sorry, Gents but in various clubs I've been in...
there have been Korean vets. They all indicated that the major portion of a wave was greatest when the "ping " was heard.
One gent finally got two BAR's and had designated loaders, that keep him loaded.
It was a valid concern, that why the M14 was developed with the 20 rounder mag.
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You mean that a human wave chinese attack is going to hear a ping ???