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    1932 Enfield No.2 Mk.1 - a lucky find

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    Picked it up this afternoon. Photos are not that good, but should show that the revolver is original (as far as I can tell after searching Skennertonicon's and Stamp's book). Royal Tank Corps marking on the bottom of the grip (very happy about that). I notice that "RTC" is lined out, as is "DEP" under it. Would "DEP" indicate Bovington? "121" is also lined out. Import/export marking is pre-1968 (only "Englandicon" faintly stamped on the barrel, along with all the expected "BNP" marks). Looks to be intact and unmolested or refinished, and has all-matching serial numbers. Overall condition is 95%+, with a mirror bore. There is only very light wear on the grips, and the lanyard ring is in place. The owner has had the revolver since the 60's. I think I did pretty well for $350, but I had to sell my Albion No.2 Mk.1** to pay for it.
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    DEP could certainly relate to an abbreviation for the Depot of the Royal Tank Regiment which is now their national musem at Bovington, and probably a local armourers mark as his stock item there
    'Tonight my men and I have been through hell and back again, but the look on your faces when we let you out of the hall - we'd do it all again tomorrow.' Major Chris Keeble's words to Goose Green villagers on 29th May 1982 - 2 PARA

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    Mmmmmmm I don't know when the RTC became the Royal Tank Regiment but worth looking into. The Bovington and relevant Tank unit/markings are recorded in the little bookl;et about butt disc markings. And DEP does indeed indicate Depot. BUT to be honest, these markings would be on the butt marking disc during that period and by then, in the Army, marking on the actual pistol was taboo. After all, that's why we had butt marking discs.

    Needs looking into I feel. Is the serial number under 400?

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    On 28 July 1917 the Heavy Branch as it was known was separated from the rest of the Corps by Royal Warrant and given official status as the Tank Corps.

    The formation of new battalions continued and by December 1918, 26 had been created though there were only 25 battalions equipped with tanks, as the 17th had converted to armoured cars in April 1918.
    The Corps saw much action in 1917 and 1918, with special note being given to the Battle of Cambrai, where Arthur George Griffiths's tank squadron became the 5th Royal Tank Regiment after the huge success of the tank.
    In 1949 following amalgamation of all the odd's and sod's of this unwielding beast, it was formally badged the Royal Tank Regiment.

    So in short it went from Tank Corps to Royal Tank Corps in 1935, then Royal Armoured Corps in 1940 to Royal Tank Regiment on amalgamation in 1949. Hope thats right but I am sure there will be an ex tankie who will let us know if that is slightly shorter than it should be on Regimental history.

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    I thought I'd seen these same markings discussed before:

    https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=34897

    By the way, the serial # is A88XX.

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    In my usual way of collecting serial numbers, I began collating Enfield revolver serials some time ago. Here's a rough yearly range, as normal, there are some guns where the date marking on the frame is earlier or later than the inspector date on the barrel.

    1927, TR 1 & 3 (Peter knows No. 1 well)
    1929, 1, 42, 52, 177 & 188
    1930, 489 to 3965
    1931, 4520 to A4796
    1932, A4800 to B4447
    1933, B5961 to C3635
    1934, C4466 to D720x
    1935, D5794 to D8944
    1936, E7x to E439x
    1937, E4760 to F9x
    1938, F53x to F6234
    1939, Mk1 F8367 to G3390 Mk1* G4620 to H2859

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    Slightly older brother... No.2 MKI

    I too was lucky enough to find a largely unused No.2







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    Quote Originally Posted by Merle View Post
    Mine looks very close to this, but has not had "S&W" added after cal 38. What is the significance of this?
    I am uncertain. The No.2 came straight out of the display case in Bath and had just recently been acquired from a local estate (according to the shop owner), so the "S&W"
    was most certainly applied in the UKicon.

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    OK, thanks.

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