+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: S&W WWII Trench Gun

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    Member leswad's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Last On
    12-21-2019 @ 07:24 PM
    Posts
    19
    Local Date
    05-29-2020
    Local Time
    11:35 AM

    S&W WWII Trench Gun

    Did they ever make this during the war?



    RIA: The Finest Antique Firearms And Modern Gun Auction Company in The US.

    Brought $4312.00
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.

  2. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Posts
    All Threads
     

  3. #2
    Member gunluvver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last On
    12-13-2016 @ 08:49 PM
    Location
    Hillsboro, OR
    Posts
    32
    Local Date
    05-29-2020
    Local Time
    07:35 AM
    It's a fake. Here's a link:

    World War II S&W Shotgun ?
    Witnessing the loss of our Freedoms right before my eyes!

  4. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  5. #3
    Member leswad's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Last On
    12-21-2019 @ 07:24 PM
    Posts
    19
    Local Date
    05-29-2020
    Local Time
    11:35 AM
    Thread Starter
    I don't know if it was misrepresented... They stated this:

    "This is an unusual example of a Smith & Wesson model 10 shotgun that has either been produced or modified to a trench style shotgun."

    There must have been an S&W collector that really really wanted this.... But 4K?

  6. #4
    Advisory Panel chuckindenver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    05-25-2020 @ 09:42 AM
    Location
    Denver Co
    Age
    57
    Posts
    3,090
    Local Date
    05-29-2020
    Local Time
    09:35 AM
    S&W 916 pump, made into something its not.
    USP is engraved, as is the U.S. and bomb. those are Winchester markings anyway.
    reproduction heatsheald, bad park job..
    the 916 is a shotgun first made by Noble, way after WW2. the Remington M10 is nothing like this shotgun.
    im surpised that this auction house would sell such a humped up POS.

  7. #5
    Member leswad's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Last On
    12-21-2019 @ 07:24 PM
    Posts
    19
    Local Date
    05-29-2020
    Local Time
    11:35 AM
    Thread Starter

  8. #6
    Member westgard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    07-09-2012 @ 10:05 AM
    Location
    Concord, MA
    Posts
    56
    Local Date
    05-29-2020
    Local Time
    11:35 AM
    what do you think of that crossed cannon cartouche on the blued model 12? Is that just a mis-strike? Looks pretty poor. What do the experts say on that? Other than that, a great looking gun. There are a bunch of interesting riots in the auction as well.

  9. #7
    Advisory Panel
    JGaynor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Last On
    09-12-2018 @ 10:47 PM
    Location
    Northern New Jersey
    Posts
    875
    Local Date
    05-29-2020
    Local Time
    11:35 AM
    Interesting study as to how these threads go off the rails.

    1. I read the original auction - I didn't anywhere that it said the shotgun was WW2 production.

    2. The auction description is (was) faulty in describing it as a model 916 in the heading and a "model 10" in the body of the descritption.

    3. Of all the BS in both forums i don't see anything proving that S&W never made military styled riot guns (so-called "trench" guns). Considering their place in the Law enforcement market why wouldn't they - particulay during the Vietnam era when they could have sold anything to anybody.

    Regards,

    Jim

  10. #8
    Advisory Panel chuckindenver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    05-25-2020 @ 09:42 AM
    Location
    Denver Co
    Age
    57
    Posts
    3,090
    Local Date
    05-29-2020
    Local Time
    09:35 AM
    S&W 916 dint come out until well after 1972,
    i got one for Christmas in 1975 from my dad, tough ol shotgun, never missed a lick.
    the 916 is a Noble M60 dressed up a bit, then the 916T takedown.
    the 916P was sold to law inforcment, and security companys..
    price was good, mine was 95.00 new at the TG&Y stores...

  11. #9
    Member P.W.Browning's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    11-06-2013 @ 10:10 AM
    Location
    Atlanta, GA
    Posts
    17
    Local Date
    05-29-2020
    Local Time
    10:35 AM
    Westgard,

    I think the stock markings are OK. The crossed cannons look like they may have been a light strike on a particularly thick spot of varnish. The markings on Winchester shotguns are sometimes tough to see as these were applied over a commercial finish, not just an oil finish. Photo of mine with a much cleaner strike below:



    What did strike me as odd are the burnished areas around the small Ordnance Bomb and Winchester PW proof on the barrel as well as the markedly different color difference between the barrel and receiver. My M12 Trench Gun doesn't exhibit that:



    Just something I noticed,

    -Patrick
    Last edited by Badger; 02-22-2011 at 10:33 PM.

+ Reply to Thread

Similar Threads

  1. WWII model 97 Trench Gun questions
    By gfguns in forum Military Shotguns
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 07-08-2012, 11:10 AM
  2. ivenhoe 97 trench
    By rice 123 in forum Military Shotguns
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 01-28-2010, 09:54 PM
  3. M97 Trench on G.B.
    By TrenchCrazy in forum Military Shotguns
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 06-23-2009, 10:30 PM
  4. Looking for an opinion on a '97 Trench Gun
    By Missing Something in forum Military Shotguns
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 06-05-2009, 05:24 PM
  5. mod 97 trench ww2
    By wolfganggross in forum Military Shotguns
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 03-24-2009, 08:04 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts