Buttstock Disc ID

**karlink** · 02-05-2010 11:11 AM

Hello. First time on the forum. I was wondering if anyone can help ID the unit disc from my 1916 Enfield. There were markings on both sides. Could these be South African? PF = Permanent Force? I'd appreciate any and all help. Thanks.

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**Highly Recommended** · 02-05-2010 11:11 AM

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**Badger** · 02-05-2010 02:52 PM

I just took a quick scan through Skennerton icon

's "The Broad Arrow" and I couldn't find any markings that resemble what you have on your discs.

Here's a site provided by Amatikulu with some good information to bookmark for the future. I can't find that marking there either.

Lee Enfield Rifle Markings (click here)

Regards,
Badger

**Peter Laidler** · 02-05-2010 03:09 PM

I wrote a book that listed all of the British icon

butt marking disc information. Well, to be brutally honest and frank, I wrote it but I copied it from the 1944 Equipment Regulations. It's called plagerism really but it's a damn good read anyway and being straight from the horses mouth (or regulations in this case) so to speak, it's absolutely correct

**karlink** · 02-05-2010 04:00 PM

Thanks to both of you for looking. I'll check out the book.
It's a great shooting rifle. I bought it at a gun show for $175.00. Here are a few photos before I cleaned it up a bit. It didn't take much to clean up, no where near as bad as my 1956 Ishy (another good shooter).

**Badger** · 02-05-2010 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Peter Laidler

I wrote a book that listed all of the British icon

butt marking disc information. Well, to be brutally honest and frank, I wrote it but I copied it from the 1944 Equipment Regulations. It's called plagerism really but it's a damn good read anyway and being straight from the horses mouth (or regulations in this case) so to speak, it's absolutely correct

Peter ...

I thought I had at least two copies of everything you wrote ...

I've not seen this work. Does Brian at BDL icon

sell it?

Thanks ...

Regards,
Badger

**iringtwice** · 02-05-2010 04:39 PM

My '42 Lithgow icon

has no disc in the stock. Why do some LE's have them and some don't? Thanks!

**Peter Laidler** · 02-05-2010 05:09 PM

Yes Brian at BDL icon

has the book. Not a worldwide best seller I have to confess!

**Badger** · 02-05-2010 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Peter Laidler

Yes Brian at BDL icon

has the book. Not a worldwide best seller I have to confess!

I found it …

The Identification of Buttstock Marking Discs in British Service 1900-1944, compiled by Peter Laidler, 1st edition, 23 pages, $6.00

BDL - Books for Sale (click here)

**Strangely Brown** · 02-05-2010 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Peter Laidler

Yes Brian at BDL icon

has the book. Not a worldwide best seller I have to confess!

I have a rare unsigned copy!

**jmoore** · 02-06-2010 05:18 AM

Much as I hate to "blow up" the credit card lately, it sounds like a good excuse to work up an order w/ BDL icon

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