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Thank You to Alan de Enfield For This Useful Post:
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03-24-2010 07:48 AM
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I will try and get access to Enforcer #391 and see what that has. That rifle happens to be an 8 hour drive from me, and I am trying to get photos out of the owner, but I might have to do a road trip, dang it! Still, I could do a detour to Yosemite - it is beautiful this time of year . The owner of #391 and #395 apparently has some Enforcer spares that he has not catalogued yet. When I know what he has, I will let you know.
The more data we can get to Alan regarding the Enforcers still out there, the better.
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I have 208 and it is in the oval
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208 - Highest yet in the 'oval'
Any advance ?
Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...
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Got to shoot #395 today, using the AJ Parker TZ 4/47 sight that it came with. Boy, I am blind using that thing lol. Still managed to get a 1/4" grouping at 100 yards, but the groups opened up to 1" at 200 yards, partly because the (in)famous Washoe Valley wind was beginning to blow (gotta love those sudden 25mph side winds lol) and my lack of familiarity using the sight. As some people know, the original buyer (who I was helping) backed out of buying the Enforcer, but it was offered to me for a very, VERY good price. I will do a proper range report when I get the rings and can get the scope mounted.
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Originally Posted by
spinecracker
Possible lead on the magazine...I feel like Sherlock Holmes lol...
Enforcers 395 and 424 were both sent to the Derbyshire police force. Now if only I could find Enforcer #424 and see what number is stamped on its magazine...
424 was actually a Cumberland Police rifle (not a Derbyshire one)
I have details of the current owner of 424 (he is in the UK), hows your research going Sherlock ?
Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...
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My pardon, Alan. I was going by Simon's response to Karlos' query under the L42A1, Envoy and Enforcer sticky on page 15 or 16(?) ("Rifle No 424 was sent to Derbyshire Police on the 14th August 1974"). If I misread anything, then I apologize. I am awaiting the current owner to let me know if his enforcer magazine is stamped with "395". If it is, I will be happy. if not, then I'm going to have to do some more detectoring lol (and some crying :P ).
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Originally Posted by
spinecracker
My pardon, Alan. I was going by Simon's response to Karlos' query under the L42A1, Envoy and Enforcer sticky on page 15 or 16(?) ("Rifle No 424 was sent to Derbyshire Police on the 14th August 1974"). If I misread anything, then I apologize. I am awaiting the current owner to let me know if his enforcer magazine is stamped with "395". If it is, I will be happy. if not, then I'm going to have to do some more detectoring lol (and some crying :P ).
Strange - according to my records 424 was part of a batch of 29 Enforcers that were shipped to Cumberland Police on 8th July 1974.
The mystery of history ???
Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...
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Mystery? No
Pain in the bottom? Yes
I wonder if there are other discrepancies in the records, or did somone just read the wrong line?
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Originally Posted by
spinecracker
Mystery? No
Pain in the bottom? Yes
I wonder if there are other discrepancies in the records, or did somone just read the wrong line?
It is strange - I've dug out all my paperwork and in fact have two lots of information for 424.
Cumberland Police shipped 8th July 1974 & Derby Police shipped 14th August 1974. maybe some 'cock-up' at Parker Hale or Enfield, or a cancelled order and re-sold to Derby Police. Guess we'll never know.
To add further 'fuel to the fire' my second Enforcer (483) which I have listed as going to both Northern Ireland Police AND Sussex Police was 'sold on' to The City Of London Police* and was then sold by them to a Firearms Dealer in Hastings called 'Finch Feeds', who in turn sold them onto local Rifle clubs (in the South East of England)
* Maybe 483 was at the famous Iranian Embassy Siege.
In the early days of Enforcer manufacture the Sussex Police could not get enough Enforcers so they purchased some Envoys and the Police Armourer converted the Envoys into 'Sniper Rifles'.
When the armourer retired from the Police he joined a firearms manufacturing company who supplied the Police with A1s and he took the remaining Enforcers and converted Envoys in part exchange.
The deeper I dig into these wonderful rifles and the more I learn, the more I realise how little I know.
The history of these will soon be totally lost as we continue to lose such notables as Chris Barber (Ex Police Armourer and Enfield addict)
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