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    The standard barrel length for the .30-40 Kragicon was 28 inches. I have a feeling the marked parts are left overs from a military contract, as the gun manufacturers didn't throw anything away that was usable. The rifle appears to be a standard sporting rifle with the optional Lyman sight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Peppers View Post
    The standard barrel length for the .30-40 Kragicon was 28 inches. I have a feeling the marked parts are left overs from a military contract, as the gun manufacturers didn't throw anything away that was usable. The rifle appears to be a standard sporting rifle with the optional Lyman sight.

    I will go with Johnny Peppers on this one. I waited for pics before posting an opinion based on your first verbal description.
    The caliber markings ,I have seen, for "30/40 Krag", are marked more than one way on M95's. ( .30 US, .30 GOVT, etc.) It is a known fact that major manufacturers did not throw good parts out if they were left over from another contract. You measured the barrel length from the muzzle to the front of the reciever. Barrel length is measured from the muzzle to the breech bolt face in cartridge arms, so if one adds the extra length to your measurement, it would be a "nominal" 28". I have only seen three (3) U.S. military M1895's in person, and they all had 28" barrels and the full "musket" style stocks.


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    Coming in here late. But my 1895 c1905 and then one shown here look very very similar.Differences are the flat shotgun style butt plate (mine has a curved steel butt plate and the barrel mounted rear sight mine has a block in the dovetail) I don't know of any of the Military models with the Lyman receiver mounted sight. Nor do they have the std buckhorn rear sight. The 1895 US Musket had a flip up style rear site shown here: http://www.antiquearmsinc.com/images...-musket-11.jpg

    As said the barrel should be measured by putting a 1/4" wood dowel or cleaning rod down the bore with the action closed. When the rod/dowel stops mark the dowel at the muzzle withdraw it and measure from that mark to the end of the dowel.

    I don't see any std version of the 1895 that this rifle fits. The butt stock is either from a Carbine or a Military contract. The receiver sight fits with a sporting rifle. The barrel mounted rear sight also fits with a sporting as does the 28" barrel.

    The serial number would help.

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    Winchester would build your rifle to any configuration you wanted. The Lyman sight as well as the shotgun butt were extra cost options. Even when ordered with a receiver sight, the rifle came with the standard sporting rear sight unless the order called for it to be left off, and the barrel was then not dovetailed. The .30 US is the caliber marking for the .30-40 Kragicon caliber. The standard Model 1895 Carbine came with the tangent style rear sight.

    Just measure the barrel from the breech fact to the end. Most people measure the barrel from where it enters the receiver, rather than from the breech face.

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