1. It appears that you are you're enjoying our Military Surplus Collectors Forums, but haven't created an account yet. As an unregistered guest, your are unable to post and are limited to the amount of viewing time you will receive, so why not take a minute to Register for your own free account now? As a member you get free access to our forums and knowledge libraries, plus the ability to post your own messages and communicate directly with other members. So, if you'd like to join our community, please CLICK HERE to Register !

    Already a member? Login at the top right corner of this page to stop seeing this message.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 31
Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    MeatMarket's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Last On
    06-25-2013 @ 04:01 PM
    Location
    Beach Island, SC
    Posts
    131
    Local Date
    05-19-2024
    Local Time
    11:44 AM

    Angry Sporterized Krag - WTF?

    I saw a sporterized Kragicon in a gun shop in SC. It nearly made me cry in sadness and pity for the thing. I hate it when people ruin and erase history. Why bother, why not just buy a new hunting rifle instead of ruining a piece of history?
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.

  2. #2
    Advisory Panel Patrick Chadwick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Last On
    06-25-2023 @ 06:36 AM
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    5,032
    Local Date
    05-19-2024
    Local Time
    05:44 PM

    Refurbish????

    Quote Originally Posted by MeatMarket View Post
    It nearly made me cry in sadness and pity for the thing. I hate it when people ruin and erase history.

    If the barrel has not been cut back, you could, of course, buy it and restore it to its (presumed) original configuration as far as is feasible. The forums here have many examples of excellent work of this nature.


    Patrick

  3. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  4. #3
    Legacy Member kragluver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Last On
    09-25-2022 @ 09:07 PM
    Location
    Aledo, Texas
    Age
    57
    Posts
    106
    Local Date
    05-19-2024
    Local Time
    10:44 AM
    In the 1920s and 30s the Kragicon had no historical value. It was just an inexpensive hunting rifle. While sporterizing one TODAY would be questionable, to blame our fore-fathers for taking a good, inexpensive rifle and turning it into a handy deer rifle that kept food on the table throughout the Depression or other hard times is short sighted. Who knew in 1920 or 1930 that the Krag (or any other milsurp rifle) would ever have value? Almost nobody.

  5. #4
    Moderator
    (Deceased January 2016)


    Harlan (Deceased)'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    01-04-2016 @ 04:42 PM
    Location
    Texas - USA
    Age
    65
    Posts
    3,727
    Real Name
    Harlan
    Local Date
    05-19-2024
    Local Time
    09:44 AM
    kragluver is correct. Even through the 60's great rifles like 1903's were considered to have little or no value. Commercial hunting rifles were very expensive so many people sporterized them. Some are almost works of art in their own rite.

    My dad was in the Korean War. I remember him seeing an M1icon Garand for sale cheap sometime in the sixties and he cussed it and said "who would want one of those heavy pieces of %$@#."

  6. #5
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    mack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    06-26-2018 @ 02:54 PM
    Posts
    159
    Local Date
    05-19-2024
    Local Time
    11:44 AM
    Harlan and kragluver, thank you for saying what I felt.

    When these rifles were sold in the 20's and 30's from the local state guard armories, they went for less that $5 in some cases. As you said the depression drove a lot of these rifles into sporter use to simply stave off starvation.

    These rifles were cheap enough and that's the way they went.

    I just finished restoring a Kragicon sporter and it turned out fine. She's back to her former glory., looking for all the world as good as the day she was issued.

    I have previously done several 03 and 03A3's and I am proud of the restorations. Carry along a tape measure and check the barrel length.

  7. #6
    Legacy Member vintage hunter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Last On
    @
    Location
    S.C.
    Age
    56
    Posts
    1,680
    Local Date
    05-19-2024
    Local Time
    11:44 AM
    Meatmarket, this Kragicon you speak of, was it in a shop in downtown Aiken?

  8. #7
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    MeatMarket's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Last On
    06-25-2013 @ 04:01 PM
    Location
    Beach Island, SC
    Posts
    131
    Local Date
    05-19-2024
    Local Time
    11:44 AM
    Thread Starter
    Quote Originally Posted by vintage hunter View Post
    Meatmarket, this Kragicon you speak of, was it in a shop in downtown Aiken?
    Yes on Richland Ave on the right just past Reynolds St. And on second thought, it may actually have been a carbine. I don't know and I feel foolish for jumping to conclusions. I don't know enough about Krags to identify it for sure, I just had the long version in my head and made an assumption. If I passed up a good find by mistake, it's fine by me because I wouldn't have been ready for that purchase anyway at the time. I'm not sure if it's still there.

  9. #8
    Legacy Member vintage hunter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Last On
    @
    Location
    S.C.
    Age
    56
    Posts
    1,680
    Local Date
    05-19-2024
    Local Time
    11:44 AM
    It was a rifle thats had it's barrel cut down to 24''. Did you notice how Bubba the Gunplumber attached the 1903a3 front sight with a screw up through the bottom of the band? If fact, most all the milsurps in that place are Bubba rejects. Way over priced too. The owner claims to be getting in some 1903's and a couple Krags soon that are supposed to be in original configuration. We'll see.

  10. Thank You to vintage hunter For This Useful Post:


  11. #9
    Legacy Member HOOKED ON HISTORY's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Last On
    05-17-2024 @ 11:19 AM
    Location
    MS/USA
    Posts
    4,005
    Local Date
    05-19-2024
    Local Time
    10:44 AM
    It is interesting how the years change perspective on things. I am still sad when I see it even though sporerizing was completely rational at the time. I do wonder somtimes if there is anything currently produced that will illicit those feelings at some later date.

  12. #10
    Moderator
    (Deceased January 2016)


    Harlan (Deceased)'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    01-04-2016 @ 04:42 PM
    Location
    Texas - USA
    Age
    65
    Posts
    3,727
    Real Name
    Harlan
    Local Date
    05-19-2024
    Local Time
    09:44 AM
    Unfortunately, there are very few military rifles that will ever be surplused out to civilians as those in the past since most have been full auto capabilities from the 60's onward. Another reason to take care of, and restore the ex-military rifles we are allowed to own.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Kraghaus/sporterized krag project
    By RalphEd in forum Krag Rifles
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 01-03-2011, 04:00 PM
  2. Sporterized #4 but not for long.
    By rdm1962 in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 11-21-2010, 07:27 PM
  3. Sporterized Arisaka
    By RED in forum Japanese Rifles
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 07-20-2010, 08:50 AM
  4. FN Commercial or Sporterized?
    By ap3572001 in forum Mauser Rifles
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 04-11-2010, 09:13 PM
  5. Sporterized 03A3
    By SSGT in forum M1903/1903A3/A4 Springfield Rifle
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-26-2009, 01:39 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts