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    Announcement Milsurp Target Competition and Shoot (2012)

    Milsurp Target Competition and Shoot (2012)

    A world wide Milsurp Target competition/shoot, open to all Milsurps members, its not so much a competition but to see how each Milsurp rifle shoot.

    There are many competitions we can't get to or would like to take part in but are sometimes the wrong date, place, time, also the categories may be not for our choice of milsurp, example being a WW1 Milsurp comp, its ok if you have a dated rifle but for someone who may be out that date range then it becomes a bit of a pain.

    As most members on this site are interested or have a Milsurp rifle to hand, being the serious collector or the novice or the first time owner of a Milsurp, (we have all been there at one point) I thought it would be good to have a quarterly shoot/comp throughout the year.

    It’s a basic comp with minimum rules and it's based on KISS, ( keep it simple stupid)

    Any Milsurp Rifle as issued or in line with the categories listed, common sense will tell you what one.

    Any desired position prone, bench, (standing if it really floats your boat !)

    Sling, or rest of any description, but as it’s a milsurp NO bipod unless it was issued with it.

    The Distance is a 100 mtrs/ 100 yrds, as I would think most can get to a 100 mtr range, whatever corner of the world you are in.

    The ammo is up to the individual, home made. Factory, jacketed, cast etc, its your rifle you decide.



    Categories

    1. Any action Milsurp as issued, with original iron sights. (as issued I mean as the rifle would have been, some of us may of changed wood or a barrel etc, but these must be original items, but the bedding of barrels is also allowed)

    2. Same as above, but any iron sights.

    3. Same as 1, but with scope, any scope permitted.

    4. Open to any converted milsurp, either in Calibre, barrel, any sight, iron or scope and bipod, and this is also for any action, Martini etc…, Semi auto (if your lucky enough to have these in your part of the world) or any Milsurp variant.

    5. Any Black powder (Milsurp) this includes any issued or volunteer rifle.

    6. Any Military trainer

    The target will be the PL7 or ISSF target cropped to fit on A4 paper which will enable us all to download and print it at home, or you may produce it to the dimensions as shown and you can put this on a backing target also as to increase the overall size etc for an aiming point. you can have 2ft x 2ft, target if you wish but the centre must be marked with the dimensions below.

    Any colour disc or marker would be allowed, again its up to the shooter, If you want to make the target into a tin hat, colour it yellow, red etc, its up to you, as long as the dimensions are standard.

    Additional aiming points may be used, to compensate the milsurp rifles that have the rear sight starting at 200, 300. mtrs/yrds etc.

    How you manage to get 5 rounds on the target at a 100 mtrs/yrds away is up to you.




    The size is as follows:

    V bull = 25mm
    10 ring = 50mm
    9 ring = 100mm
    8 ring = 150mm
    7 ring = 200mm
    6 ring = 250mm
    5 ring = 300mm




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    For those of you who want the full size target in PDF format ...

    (Click HERE to download target in PDF fie format)


    Post pic of the card on the thread,

    5 shots per card,

    2 cards a year per rifle, and can enter as many rifles in each category,

    The results will be posted at the end of the year, again its up to you, when you want to shoot but would be nice to be able to have most results or cards in by a set time, of course this being a world wide comp if someone is snowed in or someone cant get out because the tarmac has melted then it’s a viable excuse, a runny nose or bad throat don’t count.

    If you are having a good day and want to shoot all cards in one day then no probs, if you want to take part in all six then no worries, all in all common sense and honesty are the two main factors, and of course its meant to be fun, its not about being better than the next man, its what you can do with your Milsurp rifle.

    For anyone with a disability and feel they are up to it, but are unsure, then please contact me.

    The initial idea was to allow us ( forum Members) from all walks of life to shoot in our own time, way, position with our favourite rifles and show what can be done with an old Milsurp, plus its free and no pressure.

    If you looking for gold medals, being carried round in a chair, having free drinks, expect respect and want a book written about you then, I,m sorry to say but this is NOT for you.

    If you have an old Enfield, Mauser, Nagant, Springfield, Ross, Schmidt, etc…… and can hit a barn door, the size of a an A4 bit of paper at 100 mtrs then have a go.

    NOTE : This year it will run from Jan- Dec and will be 2 cards for each category.

    Contact information for Geoff "bigduke6":

    Send email to: vcmedals@yahoo.co.uk
    Send PM to: bigduke6 - Military Surplus Collectors Forums
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    Contribution to start off 2012

    Here are two targets to welcome the new competition.New Gibbs reproduction 03a4 and 1943 Enfield without scope, also photo of rifles. Good shooting everyone.


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    Excellent start, to 2012.

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    Last seen in the Armistice Day range report ( Armistice Day at the Range ) , the 1918 BSACo. No.1 Mk.III* (rebarreled in 1926) just had to come out and play. We've been together since about 1978.




    A little bit frustrating, but target #1 is my first entry for 2012:



    My first Enfield, and still a favorite- except when trying to dial the sights in exactly so. Because target two shows what happens then:


    Note- don't use this target as an entry!

    For some reason, when the sights are adjusted, the first couple of rounds don't go where you expect them to. Settling in?

    So this rifle will be back later. Once some sorting is done. (Considering it's not tuned in any sense, it still tries to shoot fairly well, no?)

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    Nice one Jmoore, I,ve yet to test my 1926 Lithgowicon out after rebarreling, am at the indoor range on Sunday 50mtrs so will run some downloads through, next time at 100 mtrs will be the Lithgow and the L42 repro.

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    New Target Entries

    Quote Originally Posted by Entry Level View Post
    Here are two targets to welcome the new competition.New Gibbs reproduction 03a4 and 1943 Enfield without scope, also photo of rifles. Good shooting everyone.

    Attachment 31024Attachment 31025Attachment 31026
    We shot a Military Benchrest match today so I will submit 2 targets. The 1943 Mark 4 T shot well today. here is a 100 yard target with scope, the target on the right was the best out of 20 rounds for score. I am posting another Gibbs Rifle target with a different load. This 150 grain fmj shot better than the SMK.


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    Cool [b]My first entry for 2012;[/b]

    1944 I.B.M. (AO) M1icon carbine:







    ---------- Post added at 10:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:32 PM ----------


    My second entry for 2010;

    First an observation I have made. My front sight is WAY TOO SHORT! When holding on target as shown in (figure 1), at 50 yards POI is about 8” above target. When holding as shown in (figure 2) POI is around 6 o-clock on target. It is very hard to get this sight picture correct, so I decided to get a new taller front sight before I shoot this gun again.


    Yugoicon M48B (MMC import):





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    Did I Misunderstand?

    Before you change a sight post try a target at 200 yards. Make sure your rear sight is as low as it will go. Hold in the conventional manner and check your strike. The picture looks to me as if the rear sight is elevated. Neat art work! Thanks

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    No misunderstanding. I have checked the fit and function of rear sight, nice and tight and as low as it will go. I only have a max 100yrd range to shoot at, with a normal sight picture, 6 o-clock hold, I am hitting almost the top of the berm! I may try super glueing a BB on top of the front sight, that may get me in range. Sort of like looking down the barrel of a shot gun! LOL
    Thanks for the responce.
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    Here is my first target! Not the best but a target. Shot yesterday with my .30M1 Carbine, 100m prone position off hand.



    A bit bigger



    Hard to see but it was a 10, 3x a 9 and a 8.
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