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    I just reviewed the chart on the Trials rifles and I realized I had answered NO in the column where it asks "matching" at the top of the page thinking it was referring to the scope matching as the scope is not. However if that question was referring to the rifle's serial being matching and not the scope, be advised the rifle itself has all original matching numbers. If that question was asking about the rifle and not the scope, is there anyway that information can be corrected on the chart to yes to reflect that the rifle is all matching? Ray
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    A1842 offered here. Has obviously gone through the South Asian refurbishment program involving being scraped with a broken hacksaw blade and painted with black goop with a bill-paster's brush.

    Mismatching bracket number M33892, but seems to have the original backsight and butt. It's noticeable how much closer the fitting of the front of the cheekrest is compared to later No.4(T)s.
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    Hi

    1. A1971 (Not 1972 as I mistakenly wrote in the Header)
    2. 1931
    3. No4 MkI(T)
    4. Button type
    5. 1945 Long Branch
    6. Can’t see one
    7. ENGLAND on the right and F.T.R. and TR on the left of butt socket. Also an ‘N’ on top of butt socket. Lots of Enfield acceptance marks.
    8. Just the usual BNP
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    10. The front scope pad screws are staked. The front scope pad appears to be original and has an Enfield acceptance mark on the front top of it
    11. No
    12. Absent. Appears to have had new wood at some point a log time ago, possibly when FTR’d?
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    14. 2035, a Mk3 in a Canadianicon marked bracket which is marked to the rifle.

    Hope that helps.

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    1. Serial number A 0488
    2. Date (& last digit separately struck?) receiver and barrel 1930 - too faint to tell if separately struck.
    3. Status (No.4 Mk.I(T) or No.4 Mk.I) Rifle is a No.4 Mk.I(T)
    4. Cocking piece. SM button type.
    5. Bracket (N92, JG etc.). Nil
    5. Screws staked? (pad screws obviously). Yes. Pads original to rifle.
    6. "T" & "TR" stamps? (added later obviously, but patterns might emerge). T stamp in middle of LH receiver wall and stamped over date on LH butt socket.
    7. Original No32 number (from the buttstock if present and #s legible). Nil.
    8. Proof marks. EFD barrel and receiver proof and inspection stamps. No commercial / export proofs.
    9. Misc. details/notes. Nil.
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    1. Rifle serial number: A1512
    2. Date on butt socket: 1931
    3. Status: No. 4 Mk I (T)
    4. Cocking piece: No. 1 Mk VI Pattern with Cross-Screw
    5. Barrel date: 1931
    6. Steel Batch Number: None listed
    7. Other Marks: Standard butt socket markings. No "TR". Englandicon on right side of receiver ring. Caliber stamped on right side of barrel tip.
    8. Proofs: Standard military proofs; no civilian ones.
    9. Location of proof marks: Underside of barrel, bolt handle, bolt head.
    10. Staked: Not staked. Pads look original to rifle.
    11. "T" stamp: "T" stamp on left sidewall. Perfect match for my other No. 4 Mk I (T)s.
    12. Original Tel. No.: Original scope number obliterated. Probably 1849? 3504 stamped underneath it. Looks period.
    13. Maker: Original scope not present.
    14. Tel.: Presently fitted with 1941-dated Kershaw No. 32 Mk I No. 7180 in a "KD" marked Rose Brothers bracket

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