Unusual marking on L.E. No.4 rifle

[gerry303ca]

I just purchased a Fazakerley No. 4 marked:
No.4 Mk 1*3(F)FTR
What is the 3 for? Was it FTR 3 times?

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[Brian Dick]

No.4Mk.1/3 is the official designation of the No.4Mk.1*, (North American production at Savage and Long Branch), converted to No.4Mk.2 at ROF Fazakerley with the trigger hung on the body instead of the trigger guard.

[SpikeDD]

Hello Gerry.... There were never and markings indicating how many FTR's were performed on No.4. It's usually just the month/year. There will sometimes be shadow remnants of prior markings indicating a previous FTR but no numerical indicator. If you are able.... post a clear pic. It would really help to give you a better answer.

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I'm with Brian.... Most likely a 1/3 and you may not be noticing the "1/" part.

[gerry303ca]

No.4Mk.1/3 is the official designation of the No.4Mk.1*, (North American production at Savage and Long Branch), converted to No.4Mk.2 at ROF Fazakerley with the trigger hung on the body instead of the trigger guard.

Thanks for the replies.

I just went out to my gun room to verify the info I sent. Sorry, I misinformed you. It is actually a Long Branch. The printing on the receiver is as follows:

/53 42L0911 No.4 Mk 1*3(F)FTR
Long Branch 1943

The /53 & 3(F)FTR are in a slightly larger & lighter print, but all clearly legible. The rifle has a Fazakerley rear sight and rounded safety lever (British?) and a LB magazine. There is no calibre designation unless it is under the handguard, but it has been converted to .22LR. It has a grooved handguard (Savage?). The trigger is not attached to the trigger guard.
So is it a Mk.1/3, or a Mk 2? Is /53 the FTR date?

Sorry for the mix-up. I just did a trade for several Enfields and had them confused.

[Peter Laidler]

To save ANY confusion, your rifle started life as a L Mk1* and in 1953 was given a FTR at Fazakerley where it was converted to Mk1/3 spec. The rear sight and safety and handguard have absolutely no bearing on the rifle whatsoever. There is no calibre on the rifle. It forms part of its designated nomenclature, that being RIFLE, .303" No4 Mk1/3. It is a bog standard No4 Mk1/3. NOT a Mk2 which confuses the issue rather. Later in its life someone converted it ti .22" calibre

[gerry303ca]

Brian, Spike, Peter,
Thank you very much for clearing this all up for me. It's great to have a site like this to turn to when questions arise.
Gerry