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    that did make me laugh and spill my G&T. Yes can relate to that, I think I only ever fired it 3 times. The rounds were extortionate and clearly why we never got to fire many in training. Mind you that training paid off later. 2 PARA were the only unit to ever fire a Charlie G in Belfast during the troubles at a hijacked car full of explosives near New Lodge flats off the North Antrim road in 1972, the ATO officer who is very well known and holds a GM Mike C.......decided it was the best action to take at the time.
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    'Tonight my men and I have been through hell and back again, but the look on your faces when we let you out of the hall - we'd do it all again tomorrow.' Major Chris Keeble's words to Goose Green villagers on 29th May 1982 - 2 PARA

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    Bet there was a fight over who was going to fire that one! I seem to recall an article recently that the Charlie G was resurrected in afghan to take out buildings as it was cheaper than using Javelins? Also the 66 got a bit of an upgrade and resurgence too. Old technology but effective.
    Sorry about the G&T!

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    The original Charlie G's were a strange paint. It was a baked on finish and to call it gloss was over selling it. To call it satin was under selling it. And it definately wasn't matt. It was almost but not quite gloss. Eventually they were painted in the same paint as the 81mm mortar base plates. Not IRR, not gloss, not matt, not satin ......, a sort of glossy satin or satiny gloss!!!!!

    The No32/L1A1 scope boxes were definately gloss deep bronze green as were the 3" and 2" mortars.

    I wonder if Carl Gustav werk in Swedenicon would look kindly on a request for some obsolete parts especially on headed ABFmuseum paperwork.

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    Pete, I would have said a satin'y' gloss. My ref to gloss was in response to the word used earlier. Ours were certainly original paint, and hadn't been touched by someone with a tin of IRR and a 5" paintbruch.

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    Tried that one already and absolutely no response. They are now BOFORS which is part of BAE, and that says it all. Too big to talk to anyone, and if you phone their main switchboard which I have on a number of times in this enquiry, they have not got a clue as to where or who is in charge of anything. There is not even a HELP desk to point you to which one of the masses of companies they own so they can respond.

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    In answer to that question, some units initially in Iraq had the 84mm but a completely diferent beast to what I have built. For instance the newer version can be identified by a nice clean look with a built in carry handle on top. The second picture shows a fluted barrel tip which I have never seen so, in short, like the telescope bracket, there seems to be a lot of changes to many variants over the years, hopefully for the better
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    The 'fluted' muzzle thinggy is a sort of blast deflector that slip[s over the front and clamped by a ring. Copied from the Blindicide. It was meant to deflect the blast from the emerging missile backwards into the barrel. But you still 'felt the heat and got a bit of the blast.

    Gil......, are CG now SAAB-BOFORS? I was on a laser target indicator trial with them. My link man could be useful

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    Yes so I am led to believe, but trust me they are in a mess, hopeless customer services at Farnborough
    'Tonight my men and I have been through hell and back again, but the look on your faces when we let you out of the hall - we'd do it all again tomorrow.' Major Chris Keeble's words to Goose Green villagers on 29th May 1982 - 2 PARA

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    Getting there. Second machined part for the knurling done covering the firing pin and spring assembly in stainless steel. Next challenge telescope brackets.
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    'Tonight my men and I have been through hell and back again, but the look on your faces when we let you out of the hall - we'd do it all again tomorrow.' Major Chris Keeble's words to Goose Green villagers on 29th May 1982 - 2 PARA

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    I buy two scopes after scouring the international web and guess what comes up at Withams in the auction??

    http://whitelabel.globalauctionplatf...?clienturl=wca
    'Tonight my men and I have been through hell and back again, but the look on your faces when we let you out of the hall - we'd do it all again tomorrow.' Major Chris Keeble's words to Goose Green villagers on 29th May 1982 - 2 PARA

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