Seriously! I enjoy shooting my Milsurps and recoil has never been an issue with me primarily (I believe) because I never think about it. Another guy I know cusses about how bad his Garandicon beats him up and that is the first thing he thinks about. I have had total joint replacements in both shoulders and after healing, I can't tell any difference. I have 8MM Germanicon, Spainish and Turkishicon Mausers, as well as a 1903A3 and Moisins. None of them kick nearly as hard as Grandad's old Win. Model 37 12 ga!