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    What a great project. There's a similar one going with a fellow from Oz interested in learning about the many Lithgowicon made SMLEs kicking around.

    It's a long project, you won't be getting your details immediately, so patience and continuous updates are the go.

    May I suggest, like Muffet chasing the SMLE info, that you publish an update table (spreadsheets are easy peasy for that) to show people the progress? It is a good way to motivate people to contribute.



    Great project, well done in following your family history. Enjoy!
    Trying to save Service history, one rifle at a time...

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    That's a great idea ! I've committed to confidentiality, so there would be a limit to how much I could list - maybe serial number and rough place …

    Thanks for that
    Alexander Henry's great great grandson
    Collaborator on book Alexander Henry Rifle Maker by Donald Dallas

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    What about cadet rifles

    Are you interested in regular issue service rifles only as I have an Australianicon Cadet Martini Henry ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rifleman188@yahoo View Post
    Are you interested in regular issue service rifles only as I have an Australianicon Cadet Martini Henry ?
    Rifleman188 … I'll be really honest and say "no" - it's only rifles / shotguns and the very odd pistol … made in Edinburgh by Alexander Henry, or his successor Alex Henry Ltd … but thanks for the offer !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 22SqnRAE View Post
    What a great project. There's a similar one going with a fellow from Oz interested in learning about the many Lithgow made SMLEs kicking around.

    It's a long project, you won't be getting your details immediately, so patience and continuous updates are the go.

    May I suggest, like Muffet chasing the SMLE info, that you publish an update table (spreadsheets are easy peasy for that) to show people the progress? It is a good way to motivate people to contribute.

    Great project, well done in following your family history. Enjoy!
    Here's where I have got to so far ! :

    Serial No Whereabouts
    128 County Durham
    198 Fairfield, ME, US
    312
    329 Northwest Territories, Canadaicon
    430
    434 Wyoming, USAicon
    457 Holts Mar '19
    494 Bonhams 4/10
    497 Holts Mar '18
    588 Australianicon Antique Arms Auctions
    604 Englandicon
    657 Holts June 2019
    718 James Julia spring '10
    719 Huddersfield, West Yorkshire
    736 East Yorkshire
    757 Holts Sept 2019
    861 Colorado
    967 Edinburgh
    985 Bonhams 11/14
    999 Guns International 4/18
    1071 Texas
    1088 Guns International
    1105 Bonhams 4/11
    1168 Antony Cribb Ltd
    1187 Kalamazoo, MI
    1214 James Julia Oct '15
    1282 Northwest Territories, Canada
    1312 James Julia spring '08
    1421 James Julia fall '14
    1445 Australian Antique Arms Auctions
    1465
    1516 Holts March 2019
    1561
    1571
    1606 James Julia spring '08
    1653 For sale at Giles Marriott
    1671 Australia
    1710 Slovakia ?
    1749 Bonhams 8/04
    1759
    1770 Holts Dec '06
    1794
    1831 gunsinternational.com
    1922
    2002 Holts Sep '07
    2071
    2098 Northwest Territories, Canada
    2134 gunsinternational.com
    2153 Italyicon
    2206 Holts Sep '06
    2227 Arizona
    2311 BC, Canada
    2326 Holts Mar '07
    2375 James Julia spring '12
    2393 Colorado
    2468 US
    2474
    2484
    2548 James Julia Apr '17
    2584 Virginia
    2603
    2683 Bertram & Co.
    2708 Holts Dec 2018
    2733 James Julia
    3021 North Yorkshire
    3035 James Julia Apr '17
    3045 Australia
    3132 James Julia Mar '15
    3149 Arizona
    3157 BC, Canada
    3185 Colorado
    3210 James Julia Oct '17
    3240
    3285 James Julia fall '09
    3316 James Julia fall '11
    3339 Savannah, Georgia, USA
    3585 James Julia spring '14
    3622 gunsinternational.com
    3654 James Julia spring '13
    3687
    3688
    3809 Australia
    3814 gunsinternational.com
    3863 Massachusetts USA
    3884
    3932 Muskegon, Michigan, USA
    4060 Montana
    4017
    4018 Plymouth
    4031 Colorado, USA
    4195 Holts Sept '19
    4244 South East Kansas
    4257 Ontario, Canada
    4402
    4511 Colorado
    4621 Australia
    4662 Museum of Edinburgh
    4687 Holts Jun '07
    4771 & 4772
    4884 Colorado
    5039 Fredericksburg, Virginia USA
    5071 Australian Antique Arms Auctions
    5102 Colorado
    5123 Colorado
    5142 Michigan
    5152 Guns International
    5229 Northwest Territories, Canada
    5273 Guns International
    5289 Plymouth
    5293 Oklahoma
    5298 England
    5373
    5444 Wisconsin
    5469 Holts Mar '11
    5500 Hermann Historica auction, Munich Nov '18
    5556 Fredericksburg, Virginia USA
    5589
    5619 http://www.hallowellco.com/alex_henr...re%20rifle.htm
    5627 Australian Antique Arms Auctions
    5629
    5693
    5672 Georgia
    5701 US
    5702 US
    5798
    5828 Wisconsin
    5834 Rock Island auction
    5852 Colorado
    5866 Bonhams 12/05
    5905 Guns International
    5929 gunsinternational.com
    5956 Fredericksburg, Virginia USA
    5960
    5977 17110 USA
    5987 Rock Island auction
    6002 Bryanston, South Africa
    6036 James Julia fall '09
    6083 Wisconsin
    6097 James Julia spring '09
    6115 Virginia
    6123 Holts Dec '17
    6160 Bellevue, WA. 98004
    6181 US
    6198 Wisconsin
    6234 Fredericksburg, Virginia USA
    6277 Virginia
    6284 Plymouth
    6354 Hyderabad, India 500-032
    6408 gunsinternational.com
    6410 Wisconsin
    6413 James Julia Apr '17
    6418 Nelson NZ
    6449 Virginia
    6470 Canada
    6473
    6476 Wyoming, USA
    6507
    6538
    6549 Victoria
    6579 Wisconsin
    6580 El Dorado Hills, California
    6637 Pennsylvania, USA
    6639 Colorado
    6665 Wisconsin
    6673 Australia
    6677 Australia
    6679 US
    6681 Sainte-Brigitte-de-Laval, Canada
    6687
    6701 Australia
    6813
    6843 South Carolina, USA
    6865 James Julia fall '09
    6927 James Julia fall '14
    6955 Bonhams SF, 6/16
    7013
    7043 Guns International
    7055 Las Vegas, NV
    7056
    7092 New York
    7093 New York
    7113 & 7114 Guns International
    7140 North Yorkshire
    7150 Guns International
    7215 Devon
    7355 Holts Mar '19
    7433 Manchester, NH, US
    7457
    7698 Bryanston, South Africa
    7709
    7755 Museum of Edinburgh
    7765 Gavin Gardiner sale
    7894 US
    7984 Rock Island Auction April '18
    8010 Gavin Gardiner sale
    8048 Rock Island Auction April '18
    8204
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    Collaborator on book Alexander Henry Rifle Maker by Donald Dallas

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    That's the inventory up to 200 now !

    Brilliant - long way to go though - I think!
    Alexander Henry's great great grandson
    Collaborator on book Alexander Henry Rifle Maker by Donald Dallas

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    A further update (considerable number added thanks to a contact trawling through old auction catalogues) :

    Serial No Whereabouts
    128 County Durham, Englandicon
    198 Fairfield, ME, US
    312
    329 Northwest Territories, Canadaicon
    430
    434 Wyoming, USAicon
    457 Holts Mar '19
    494 Bonhams 4/10
    497 Holts Mar '18
    523 Sotheby's Dec '88
    588 Australianicon Antique Arms Auctions
    604 England
    657 Holts June 2019
    718 James Julia spring '10
    719 Huddersfield, West Yorkshire
    736 East Yorkshire
    757 Holts Sept 2019
    861 Colorado, USA
    967 Edinburgh
    985 Bonhams 11/14
    999 Guns International 4/18
    1071 Texas, USA
    1088 Guns International
    1105 Bonhams 4/11
    1168 Antony Cribb Ltd
    1187 Kalamazoo, MI, USA
    1214 James Julia Oct '15
    1282 Northwest Territories, Canada
    1290 1291 Sotheby's Mar '87
    1312 James Julia spring '08
    1421 James Julia fall '14
    1445 Australian Antique Arms Auctions
    1465
    1516 Holts March 2019
    1559 in old catalogue
    1561
    1571
    1606 James Julia spring '08
    1653 Giles Marriott
    1671 Australia
    1710 Slovakia ?
    1749 Bonhams 8/04
    1759
    1770 Holts Dec '06
    1779 Christies Mar '02
    1794
    1831 gunsinternational.com
    1922
    1923 Sotheby's Apr '89
    2002 Holts Sep '07
    2071
    2098 Northwest Territories, Canada
    2134 gunsinternational.com
    2153 Italyicon
    2170 Sotheby's 2001
    2206 Holts Sep '06
    2227 Arizona, USA
    2311 BC, Canada
    2322 Sotheby's Aug '02
    2326 Holts Mar '07
    2375 James Julia spring '12
    2393 Colorado, USA
    2468 US
    2474
    2484
    2548 James Julia Apr '17
    2584 Virginia, USA
    2603
    2683 Bertram & Co.
    2708 Holts Dec 2018
    2733 James Julia
    3021 North Yorkshire
    3035 James Julia Apr '17
    3045 Australia
    3132 James Julia Mar '15
    3149 Arizona, USA
    3157 BC, Canada
    3185 Colorado, USA
    3210 James Julia Oct '17
    3240
    3285 James Julia fall '09
    3306 Amoskeag auction 11/'19
    3307 Amoskeag auction 11/'19
    3316 James Julia fall '11
    3339 Savannah, Georgia, USA
    3585 James Julia spring '14
    3609 Christie's Sept '99
    3622 gunsinternational.com
    3654 James Julia spring '13
    3686 Atlanta Georgia, USA
    3687
    3688
    3766 Finlandicon
    3809 Australia
    3812
    3814 gunsinternational.com
    3863 Massachusetts USA
    3884
    3932 Muskegon, Michigan, USA
    3990 3991 Christie's Mar '02
    4060 Montana, USA
    4017
    4018 Plymouth
    4031 Colorado, USA
    4195 Holts Sept '19
    4209 Bonhams Nov '19
    4244 South East Kansas, USA
    4257 Ontario, Canada
    4402
    4463 Sotheby's Aug '03
    4509 Christie's Nov '95
    4511 Colorado, USA
    4621 Australia
    4662 Museum of Edinburgh
    4687 Holts Jun '07
    4757 Holts Dec '19
    4771 & 4772
    4884 Colorado
    5039 Fredericksburg, Virginia USA
    5048 Sotheby's Aug '05
    5071 Australian Antique Arms Auctions
    5102 Colorado, USA
    5116 Atlanta Georgia, USA
    5123 Colorado, USA
    5142 Michigan, USA
    5152 Guns International
    5229 Northwest Territories, Canada
    5273 Guns International
    5289 Plymouth
    5293 Oklahoma, USA
    5298 England
    5333 Scotland
    5373
    5393 Luper Auction Dec '19
    5444 Wisconsin, USA
    5469 Holts Mar '11
    5500 Hermann Historica auction, Munich Nov '18
    5529 Colorado, USA
    5556 Fredericksburg, Virginia USA
    5589
    5619 Colorado, USA
    5627 Australian Antique Arms Auctions
    5629
    5657 Sotheby's Aug '04
    5660 Christie's Nov '95
    5693 Finland
    5672 Georgia, USA
    5701 USA
    5702 USA
    5752 Gavin Gardiner Dec '07
    5798
    5816 New York State, USA
    5828 Wisconsin, USA
    5834 Rock Island auction
    5852 Colorado, USA
    5866 Bonhams 12/05
    5871 5872 Christie's Sept '99
    5905 Guns International
    5923 Luper Auction Dec '19
    5929 gunsinternational.com
    5940 Sotheby's Apr '89
    5956 Fredericksburg, Virginia USA
    5960 Finland
    5977 Harrisburg USA
    5987 Rock Island auction
    6002 Bryanston, South Africa
    6036 James Julia fall '09
    6083 Wisconsin, USA
    6097 James Julia spring '09
    6115 Virginia, USA
    6123 Holts Dec '17
    6160 WA, USA
    6181 USA
    6198 Wisconsin, USA
    6234 Fredericksburg, Virginia USA
    6277 Virginia, USA
    6284 Plymouth
    6311 Gavin Gardiner Apr '07
    6354 Hyderabad, India 500-032
    6408 gunsinternational.com
    6410 Wisconsin, USA
    6413 James Julia Apr '17
    6418 Nelson, New Zealand
    6449 Virginia, USA
    6470 Canada
    6473
    6476 Wyoming, USA
    6507
    6538
    6549 Victoria
    6579 Wisconsin, USA
    6580 El Dorado Hills, California, USA
    6637 Pennsylvania, USA
    6639 Colorado, USA
    6665 Wisconsin, USA
    6673 Australia
    6677 Australia
    6679 USA
    6681 Sainte-Brigitte-de-Laval, Canada
    6687
    6701 Australia
    6753 Gavin Gardiner Dec '07
    6774 Gavin Gardiner Dec '19
    6813
    6814 Christie's Sept '99
    6843 South Carolina, USA
    6865 James Julia fall '09
    6892 in 1974 catalogue
    6927 James Julia fall '14
    6928 Sotheby's Oct '90
    6955 Bonhams SF, 6/16
    7013
    7039 Holts Dec '19
    7043 Guns International
    7055 Las Vegas, NV, USA
    7056
    7092 New York, USA
    7093 New York, USA
    7113 & 7114 Guns International
    7140 North Yorkshire
    7150 Guns International
    7215 Devon
    7221 7222 in old catalogue 1982
    7355 Holts Mar '19
    7433 Manchester, NH, US
    7457
    7698 Bryanston, South Africa
    7709
    7755 Museum of Edinburgh
    7765 Gavin Gardiner sale
    7894 US
    7984 Rock Island Auction April '18
    8010 Gavin Gardiner sale
    8048 Rock Island Auction April '18
    8204
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    If you'd like to view some of these old auction entries, go to :

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/AlexHenryRifles/
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    I know you said this is only for your own interest, but I suspect it would be of interest to many others also, in particular the people whose information you seek.

    Therefore I'd suggest you make this list public with all owner information removed obviously, and also that you decide on a set of basic details about these weapons that you ask owners to provide; the more the better, up to a point. And I would do that as soon as possible.

    It is surprising what can be learned from a registry or index of this kind when the data begins to "fill out".

    Not only will it be an interesting historical exercise, but owners have a stake in participating as it will tend to increase knowledge of, interest in, and therefore the value of their Alex Henry weapons.

    This kind of data can form the core of a published study of the firm and their products also, should that ever be your intention, or someone else's.

    "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." W.L.S.C..

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    Oh I know … I realise the huge potential of it as a database or similar.

    Many contributors have sent or offered photographs

    It would be an enormous undertaking, and in practical terms … never up to date.

    Crikey - what have I started !?

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