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    Krag Cutaway for The 1901 Pan-Am Exposition

    All I'll say is I'm a sucker for a cutaway and this one is mighty fine. Other than that, these pictures speak for themselves.



    US SPRINGFIELD 1898 30/40 KRAG PAN AM EXPO CUTAWAY

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    I hear you...nice looking display piece...
    Regards, Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcathey View Post
    Kragicon Cutaway for The 1901 Pan-Am Exposition
    Wow that is beautiful; I've not seen a cut-a-way since my military days as a kid.

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    That is a beautiful looking "cut-away" display Kragicon.

    However, it could not have been on display in 1901. Receiver #44095 was not built until early 1903.

    The '1900 cartouche' Stock is also not original to the (1903 built) Receiver.

    IMHO - When small details don't jive, it brings the whole story into disrepute.

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    However, it could not have been on display in 1901. Receiver #44095 was not built until early 1903.
    That is quite interesting. I didn’t think to look up the serial. I wonder where the auction house got that information. Might just shoot them off an email. See if they’ll try to back up any of those claims (which they can’t).

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    That's too bad, perhaps another cutaway done later and now just another story. Still a nice piece to have on the mantle.
    Regards, Jim

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    The 1901 Pan-American Exposition was a 'World's Fair' held in Buffalo, N.Y.

    President McKinley visited the Fair and was assassinated, in a reception line, upon his return from a side-trip to view Niagara Falls.

    The Library of Congress has Motion Pictures of various scenes at the Pan-American Exposition. One of the films is of troops parading before President McKinley. Oddly, some of the troops have Krags and some are armed with model 1873 'Trapdoors'.

    Here is a picture of an exhibition hall we all would like to see the inside of!


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    They has a similar situation. They had a Kragicon carbine that the owner claimed his great great uncle or some family relative carried it up San Juan hill with Teddy. Unfortunately the serial number of the carbine dated one year after the Spanish War.. I contacted them and explained the error and they did nothing about the claim.
    It makes one think about the credibility of the auction house and how they are after the dollar and not the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark1 View Post
    the credibility of the auction house and how they are after the dollar and not the truth.
    I'll bet that somewhere in the corporate BS from the auction house is a statement that all descriptions are supplied by consignor and they are not responsible for any errors etc.
    Ed reluctantly no longer in the Bitterroot

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    I'm gonna do a little resurrection here.
    I've been thinking about cutaways like this...because I'd really like to have one and I run across a lot of butchered firearms that would make a nifty canvas.

    But the question is, what's the legality of it? As far as I can tell, the receiver is not properly "demilled" and that barrel is less than 16".

    Is this cutaway technically a short barreled rifle?

    Any thoughts?

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