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    US Model 1917 Vietnam bring back trophy with paperwork.

    This Winchester 1917 has new Vietnam made wood furniture with the orange colored shellac encountered on SKSs. The paperwork is dated 1970. The photo flash washed out the various pieces of paperwork placed above the rifle.




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    One vote for one of the most unusual finds ever.

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    Nice looking piece...
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    To this photo some guys told me, it is in Vietnam some other said Grenada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie_Daniels View Post
    To this photo some guys told me, it is in Vietnam some other said Grenada.
    My vote would be Vietnam. His headgear was phased out by in the early 80s by the woodland camo



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    Beakeyp, These are some incredible rifles. Maybe I missed this in another post, but what is the back story with this collection? Assuming these are yours-did you aquire these one at a time or as a collection? Seems like a museum type collection. Very interesting.Salt Flat

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    For the most part, one at a time. My friend and I would do one to four shows a weekend. Having a very stressful job, it was cheaper and more effective than going to a shrink.

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    Viet Nam and the rifle most likely came from China. The US sent a lot of 1917 rifles to China during WW2 and would not surprise me to see them sent to Viet Nam as aid by the Chinese.

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    I did not post pictures of those two. Is there interest? Have to find them in storage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce McAskill View Post
    Viet Nam and the rifle most likely came from China. The US sent a lot of 1917 rifles to China during WW2 and would not surprise me to see them sent to Viet Nam as aid by the Chinese.
    Could be also probably left by the Frenchicon as well since we supplied a lot of the M1917 under the lend lease programs in WWII.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fboyj View Post
    My vote would be Vietnam. His headgear was phased out by in the early 80s by the woodland camo
    You have my vote as Vietnam too. In Grenada, most of the US Army units were "elite" units out of Ft. Bragg under the 18th Airborne Corp who had a priority on the issue of the new "woodland" camo uniforms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breakeyp View Post
    This Winchester 1917 has new Vietnam made wood furniture with the orange colored shellac encountered on SKSs. The paperwork is dated 1970. The photo flash washed out the various pieces of paperwork placed above the rifle.

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    The wood looks like the Chi wood that the Chinese used on their Type 56 SKS and Type AK rifles. Both the Chinese and French received large quantities of the M1917 in the WWII time frame. I remember in the initial part of the Vietnam war, the opposition was very relundent to provide first class weapons to the Viet Cong as they want the war to appear a local civil war between the South Vietnamese Communist and the Central Government of the Republic of Vietnam. The communist opposition would only provide surplus WWII weapons to Viet Cong. Later their mask came off and the Communist block would provide AKs and other first class weapons to the Viet Cong.

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