+ Reply to Thread
Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3
Results 21 to 22 of 22

Thread: Another Dakota gone.

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #21
    Really Senior Member Paul S.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    01-02-2019 @ 06:59 PM
    Location
    Back and forth between Sydney and Southern California
    Posts
    1,440
    Local Date
    02-19-2019
    Local Time
    11:54 PM
    Thread Starter
    Quote Originally Posted by GeeRam View Post
    The crashed Ju-52 was the one they used for filming the scenes in Where Eagles Dare.
    I wondered if it might have been.

  2. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Posts
    All Threads
    No Drill-Tap scope mounts for Mosin Nagant, Mauser K98K, Yugo M48, Swedish M96 and M38, Swiss K31, K11, 1911 and more! Bringing mil-surplus rifles to modern standard without damaging historical values! We specialise in military utensils and artefacts such as helmets, daggers, medals and badges, etc.  The on-line store is intended for personal browsing and searching of collecting objects. All items are provided historical value only and can be used for home collection or other purposes except of fascism, Nazism or other extremism manifestation or its propaganda. LIMITED TIME OFFER FROM THE AMERICAN GUNSMITHING INSTITUTE: Get Immediate Online Access To AGI's NEW Armorer's Course for Glock Pistols, Covering Every Generation of Glocks, Including the Latest Model 42/43 and Double Stack Pistols for ONLY $7.00! Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Chuck in Denver ... Buy-Sell-Trade .. Guns, Cars Motorcycles We pride ourselves on being the new lowest price listing service, and the simplest to use. If you need to buy or sell collectible firearms or any firearm in your legal possession, then this is the place for you. If you’re a big collector clearing house, or other seller that could benefit from a Premium seller account, then we can also support you here at Gunonline.com. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  3. #22
    Really Senior Member jonh172's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Last On
    Today @ 12:39 AM
    Posts
    296
    Local Date
    02-20-2019
    Local Time
    12:54 AM
    That Dakota suffered a classic case of rotating too soon and too steep causing a stall. (Aerodynamic, not engine)

    The left wing had the higher angle of attack and stalled first causing it to bank hard left, striking the ground.

    Cause could be either mechanical control lock or over zealous pilot technique.

    Contol lock is very possible as the tail wheel wasn't off the ground but a few seconds before the aircraft rotated, jamming the tail wheel back against the ground like the pilot couldnt control it.

    No way any pilot would intentionally rotate that aggressively especially on a classic, heavy aircraft.

    As mentioned it does appear the flaps were not selected for takeoff, but this should have just caused a longer than normal takeoff roll if the pilot was doing his part, not the sharp rotation seen.

    Extremely glad everyone survived.

    ---------- Post added at 04:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:10 PM ----------

    As far as the junker is concerned, aircrafts dive do to lack of lift, not engine power.

    An aircraft turning 180 degress then plummeting could be due to a single engine malfunction and loss of airspeed. The lack of airspeed reduces the effects of the ailerons to the point where full inputs are counter acted by the running engine (called vmca roll, or single engine minimum airspeed control).

    If the running engines power is not reduced and the aircrafts pitch attitude reduced to regain airspeed, the running engine will eventually roll the aircraft over and into a dive.

    At high altitude, this could happen at a much higher airspeed than whats published in the SOP as published airspeeds are tested at lower altitudes where aircrafts perform better.

    Last edited by jonh172; 12-17-2018 at 04:27 PM.

  4. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
+ Reply to Thread
Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3

Similar Threads

  1. Remington acquires Dakota Arms
    By Dan In Indiana in forum The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 06-12-2009, 11:13 PM
  2. Garand Picture of the Day - South Dakota
    By Mark in Rochester in forum M1 Garand/M14/M1A Picture of the Day Forum
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 03-16-2009, 12:25 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts