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    Transitional No.4 T?

    Markings on early-mid war snipers has been non-standard but just picked this girl up that seems like it was set up in the transition.

    As you can see it has the inspector stamp on the rear of the receiver and the "TR" but lacks the "T" and the "S" stamp. The butt is original matching the rifle as was paired with a '43 Kershaw Mk I s/n 7975 (unfortunately missing, anyone have her?).

    The pads have been staked, so it was through someone after mid-late '44. One would thick it was an incomplete rifle that was later paired with a scope, but why a '43 Mk I scope and why the missing "S" stamp? Maybe it is an incomplete that was finished later? Opinions?

    The rifle as a whole is pretty much original with a "rare" SM43 marked rear sight, matching bolt and forend, unmodified trigger guard. Purchased it with a mismatched original mount and a mismatched '44 Watson Mk I.
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    Nice find Lance. To be honest, I think she's what I would expect from a mid (ish) 1943 conversion. The rear sight, although a SM43, which is what you would expect, could be a replacement which by chance was made by Singer in the same year as the rifle. This would explain the lack of the 'S' on the cut-off block. However, the markings were not religiously applied as per Peter's book until later 1943 anyway, so we'll probably never know for sure one way or the other - the rifle could just as easily have left the BSA factory wearing that rearsight. Most of my 1941 to early/mid 1943 rifles have lacked the sidewall 'T', & those that I've had that possessed one I suspect may have had it added after the event by a judicious armourer. So, the lack of the sidewall 'T' on an earlier converted rifle does NOT necessarily mean it was a 'less telescope' rifle, & I'd lay odds yours went out with its contemporaneous Mk1 scope when it left H&H at the time. Incidentally, I think after writing the 4T book, Peter came across some documentation that suggests that the previously supposed attribution of 'KL' to Kershaw is not so, but is in fact 'Kodak Ltd', so your rifle originally bore a scope made by the camera people!

    She's nice. I'd definitely give her house room!

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    This 1943 BSA, instead, has the letter "T" on the action.
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    When was the T on the left side of the receiver added on the rifle ? I have a 1943 No. 4 T that is correct less the T .

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