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    Swiss Briquet Model 1852 Short Sword?

    Hi all,

    I just recently decided to take a plunge into buying a sword as I have never bought one and figured it would be a neat addition for my Swissicon collection. I ordered this sword that was advertised as a Swiss Briquet Model 1852 Short Sword from a dealer I have purchased from before and I trust so I never asked for any photos.

    Now that its in my hands I am looking at it and I am not sure it is actually a Swiss 1852 Short Sword or if it is a modern copy or someone elses variant (the sword is based off of a Frenchicon XI short sword so many different countries would have variants). I am not experienced in swords at all and would like some second opinions on it. I also know swords are one of the most faked things out there and it can be very easy to get a repro instead of the real thing.

    The things that are throwing red flags for me are the fact that it is slightly different in comparison to photos I have compared to online, such as different pommel portion, different scabbard mounting system, the handle appears to be a bit different in shape, some really crude filing work on part of the handguard which I don't think the Swiss would have had any part in, and there is no markings of any sort that I have been able to locate on there, and there is a glued leather portion on the handguard to prevent the sword from rubbing on the scabbard.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated as I don't know if I should be asking to return it at this point.











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    Please tell me that's not from CoGun?

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    No, its from a Canadianicon dealer of small arms. I have dealt with him many times in the past but he specializes more in the firearms side of things

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    It looks legit, for sure. I suppose it is all about trust. I assume there's no paperwork?
    I'd love to have it myself.

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    Nothing against swords, but isn't this the wrong forum?

    ---------- Post added at 04:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:03 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglelord17 View Post
    The things that are throwing red flags for me are the fact that it is slightly different in comparison to photos I have compared to online, such as different pommel portion, different scabbard mounting system, the handle appears to be a bit different in shape, some really crude filing work on part of the handguard which I don't think the Swissicon would have had any part in, and there is no markings of any sort that I have been able to locate on there, and there is a glued leather portion on the handguard to prevent the sword from rubbing on the scabbard.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated as I don't know if I should be asking to return it at this point.
    Sub-standard workmanship plus no markings = not a Swiss weapon. Send it back.

    P.S. It could be a genuine blade that has been "recycled" with a poorly finished modern casting for the handle.
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    It might possibly be the wrong forum, I just didn't want to sign up for another one. I figured there would hopefully be some Swissicon collectors on here knowledgable about this.

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    I'm with Patrick on this one. No markings and questionable workmanship.

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    Well I am going to try and return it for in store credit. I have never had a issue with him, so I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt (plus he has lots of things I want which I know are authentic).

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    If its related to a Swissicon rifle or even arms I am fine with the posting.

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