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    Markings on 1919 BSA SMLE

    Hello all, I purchased a 1919 BSA No.1 Mk.III* a while back and have been researching the markings ever since. I have gotten most of them figured out, but some are just anomalies that I cannot decipher for the life of me. Could anyone possibly help?



    Marking #1


    Marking #2


    Marking #3


    Marking #3 Closer look


    One of the strangest is marking #2, which I believe is an early Lithgowicon inspection mark on the nosecap of a BSA rifle, the serial numbers match oddly enough but I'm not sure how or why it would have ended up with an Aussie marking.

    Can anyone help me figure out what these markings mean?
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    Maybe articles from here might help.

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    Maybe articles from here might help.

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    Unfortunately I searched there too and tbe only one listed is the Lithgowicon mark, which deepens the mystery.

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    hi has the smle been sent to Australiaicon after ww1 is the a ftr stamp on the left hand side wrist

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    The nose piece could be Australianicon not BSA.. Rifles and parts got moved around in general stores and repair workshops. Adds to the rifles history. Are there any stamps on the Butt.

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    Definitely a Lithgowicon mark, can we see the serial number on the nose cap, has it been re-numbered?

    You have to remember the rifle is 100 years old, with many years in civilian hands post service, so literally anything can be encountered at this point, re markings.

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    The nosecap doesn't appear to be renumbered and the stock has no markings to indicate if it was a replacement or not, but I also cannot find a factory thorough repair mark of any form anywhere on the rifle. I attached some more pictures of different markings and the nosecap.

    EDIT: I forgot to mention that the barrel, receiver, and nosecap all have the same serial and have not been renumbered.


    It doesn't appear to be renumbered and there are no other markings I can find.

    This is the magazine, it appears the main serial number was thoroughly stamped by the factory all over but the absence of any FTR markings perplexes me.

    Here is the right-side butt socket, notice that very strange 9 that seems to be deeply stamped (possibly over another number?)

    The underside of the receiver and barrel have markings of all kinds, mostly inspector's. Not sure what the 50, the W, and the 3 (under the flash) are though.

    She was clearly rebarreled in 1919, but why would that be if it was made in 1919?

    Another mystery mark I forgot to post, this is located on the bottom side of the stock just behind the wrist. There are no other markings on the butt-stock, not even a unit medallion.
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    Mags are not numbered at the factory. That is not a re barrel that is the original barrel but then a new 1919 barrel could have been in the rack of barrels. I would think that is a new bayonet boss that was numbered to the rifle when fitted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bindi2 View Post
    Mags are not numbered at the factory. That is not a re barrel that is the original barrel but then a new 1919 barrel could have been in the rack of barrels. I would think that is a new bayonet boss that was numbered to the rifle when fitted.
    Adding to this, the numbering on the Nose cap is a little hap hazard, not "armourer neat"
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrclark303 View Post
    Adding to this, the numbering on the Nose cap is a little hap hazard, not "armourer neat"
    Do you think a civilian owner did it?

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