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    M1 carbine leather scabbards

    Were any carbine leather scabbards dated 1942 ? mine in the photo is dated 1943

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    RCS..

    A few hours of searching I can find one reference to a 42 dated Scabbard made by Hess and Hopkins.
    No pictures, just a post by a Englishman named Leatherneck17 near the bottom in this link:
    M1 Carbine Leather Scabbard - G503 Military Vehicle Message Forums

    Did see a scabbard described as for the Carbine and dated 42 being offered for sale. But it's for the M1 Garand not a Carbine.
    Neat picture showing it mounted:
    Sold - Wwii Bicycle Military Rifle Holster- Trade? | The Classic and Antique Bicycle Exchange




    And came across this picture showing a few different Scabbards.
    From the Bicycle link above:
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    M1 Garand
    M1 Carbine
    M1A1icon Paratrooper



    Anyone own or seen a 1942 Dated M1 Carbine Leather Scabbard ?
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    Charlie, thanks for doing the research on the leather scabbards, it would be quite a find to locate a 1942 dated scabbard. I also have a M1A1icon canvas Atlas Awning 1943 and have seen them dated 1944 too and other contractors. I bought mine a very long time ago but understand these have been faked now.

    Thanks again RCS

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    Scabbard Strap Hardware

    Robert,
    Do you have the straps for your leather scabbard ?
    I seen a couple complete 44 dated real ones for sale @ $400 and up..IIRC
    Curious as I ran across a set of Repro straps being offered on Ebay.
    But they show the buckles and hooks with a bright brass color.
    I'm not familiar enough with them to tell if the hooks are the same shape/style as original ones.

    Anyone know if the originals were a bright Brass ?
    Or were they blackened like our carbine sling snaps ?
    The aged originals I see show the hardware with a black or maybe tarnished finish ?

    Just curious...... As if needed I have a few thoughts on how to drop the brass hardware shine and get a black finish.

    Auction example of hardware style and color..

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    Hooks have different make/detail on the top picture (the repro) vs the bottom picture of JimF4M1sicon scabbard...
    Link found here: https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=53600

    No surprise there I guess.
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    Charlie, I bought carbine scabbard straps from Hayes Otoupalik around the middle 1990's for about $40, They look too new but I kept them and thought
    that if I sell the leather scabbard at some point the straps can go with it. The Otoupalik straps are repro with brass hooks.

    Now I understand the really rare leather scabbards are the Model 1903 scabbards converted to use the M1icon rifle before WW2


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