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    UK spec Straight pull Carbine

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    As we in the UKicon are only allowed M1icon Carbines in straight pull, with no gas system, do any of our UK members have any of the various makers?

    They fall into two camps, UK assembled with new un-ported Armalon made barrels, or ex Italianicon issue, with (I would guess) new Italian barrels.

    I would be very interested to hear feedback for anyone as it's high time to add a Carbine to the collection.
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    A friend has just bought one off Valmont Arms in Sheffield. Manufactured in Luxembourg I believe from original parts. The original barrel, if still within spec, has the gas port tig welded. His has the original 1942 barrel.
    £1600 from memory. I'll see if i can post the pics he put online

    ITL Shooting Supplies sells them, mish mash of parts, new barrels and Chiappa woodwork

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    This is the Valmont Firearms one he bought. It's money upfront so you don't get to choose.

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    Thanks Roy, the efforts much appreciated, I'll take a good look...

    What does his shoot like?

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    he hasn't fired it yet, but here is Daniel from Valmont firing his






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    Looks very good indeed, nice to have an original rifle.

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    If you can, make a solid gas plug and install it the same way a regular gas piston is installed. Assuming your government's rules allow that. I believe you can weld the thing in if necessary.
    All that is right out of a book I have about the Carbine, that naturally I don't remember the book's name or author. I'm not at home to look. Tells you how to turn it into a pump action using the same plug plus making and installing the pump handle.
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    So from the comments and video etc does this mean that there has been some relaxation of the UKicon spec for straight pulls?

    I thought that they had to be a “mix” from the parts bin to avoid being section 5 which meant no original receiver and barrel combination hence the new manufacture unported barrels on everything from L1A1s to Garands etc. How come welded up original barrels are ok now? Also seeing the video, didn’t I read somewhere that all straight pull SKS with welded up gas ports were seized by police in the UK and a dealer ran into trouble over them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desperatedan View Post
    So from the comments and video etc does this mean that there has been some relaxation of the UKicon spec for straight pulls?

    I thought that they had to be a “mix” from the parts bin to avoid being section 5 which meant no original receiver and barrel combination hence the new manufacture unported barrels on everything from L1A1s to Garands etc. How come welded up original barrels are ok now? Also seeing the video, didn’t I read somewhere that all straight pull SKS with welded up gas ports were seized by police in the UK and a dealer ran into trouble over them.
    Who knows. My understanding is, because they arrive in the UK as a straight pull they are Sect 1. They go to the proof house, which judging by their previous/recent willingness to assist MOD Police enquiries, would suggest the Proof House see nothing wrong with them.

    Caveat Emptor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy W View Post
    Who knows. My understanding is, because they arrive in the UKicon as a straight pull they are Sect 1. They go to the proof house, which judging by their previous/recent willingness to assist MOD Police enquiries, would suggest the Proof House see nothing wrong with them.

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    Thanks Roy. Ordinarily that should provide a UK buyer with some degree of comfort but I thought that typically these "new" straight pulls coming from the EU will come with new EU proof marks and there's no reason for dealers to then send them to either of the UK proof houses. For example my Italianicon assembled Garandicon has Italian proof marks.....

    Caveat Emptor indeed!

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