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    Quote Originally Posted by desperatedan View Post
    Thanks Roy. Ordinarily that should provide a UKicon buyer with some degree of comfort but I thought that typically these "new" straight pulls coming from the EU will come with new EU proof marks and there's no reason for dealers to then send them to either of the UK proof houses. For example my Italianicon assembled Garandicon has Italian proof marks.....

    Caveat Emptor indeed!
    Good point. I'll ask what is on the carbine

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    So with UKicon "straight-pulls" is there any restriction on the size of magazine that can be used with them, please? Theoretically one would think not but firearm laws appear not always easy to understand, at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying10uk View Post
    So with UKicon "straight-pulls" is there any restriction on the size of magazine that can be used with them, please? Theoretically one would think not but firearm laws appear not always easy to understand, at times.
    no mag restrictions

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    Apparently they originate at Luxdeftec. They have some interesting stuff on their site. LuxDefTec S.A.

    This is the proof mark, presumably Luxembourg?


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    At least you gentleman can still fire your carbines. IN New Zealandicon IF you have a special license which is hard to get you may have a carbine but the bolt must not be in it and the bolt must be stored at another listed location other then where you live. So one can have a carbine but cannot fire it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy W View Post
    Apparently they originate at Luxdeftec. They have some interesting stuff on their site. LuxDefTec S.A.

    This is the proof mark, presumably Luxembourg?

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    I don't think Luxembourg has a proof house.
    The mark on the far right as you look at the pic (it is upside down) looks very like its from the Italianicon Gardone proof house. See pic attached.
    The "CIP" is a mark from a proof house as a member of the Permanent International Commission for the Proof of Small Arms (C.I.P.) and I think the "N" means compulsory proof.
    So in summary Italian proof I reckon. I must check and see what my Garandicon has on it.

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    There is a curious juxtaposition regarding the legality of these rifles.

    If the conversion is carried out abroad, then it's imported and accepted as Sec1.

    If you do precisely the same thing here, then it's regarded as a conversion of a Sec5 firearm and retaines it's Sec5 designation...

    A certain UKicon RFD went to prison for this very thing, among other charges.

    The madness of the UK system!

    I would personally prefer an example as original and complete as possible.

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    Unhappy Thanks

    That may not be anything we want. But it is a lot better than sending it through " captain crunch".

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrclark303 View Post
    There is a curious juxtaposition regarding the legality of these rifles.

    If the conversion is carried out abroad, then it's imported and accepted as Sec1.

    If you do precisely the same thing here, then it's regarded as a conversion of a Sec5 firearm and retaines it's Sec5 designation...

    A certain UKicon RFD went to prison for this very thing, among other charges.

    The madness of the UK system!

    I would personally prefer an example as original and complete as possible.
    From when I looked at it a couple of years ago, as I really fancied one myself, its just pot luck as to the origin of the bits that they are assembled from.
    I also believe that LuxDefTec no longer make them or the M14's they were doing.
    I know Ian at ITL has been trying to get a batch of the new USAicon made Inland Carbines, but they didn't want to know. He told me they wanted to make them by welding up the gas port, even though they drill them on the production line. He gave up trying to explain them just don't drill them, but they didn't get it. Ian said to me that welded up ports are not UK legal.
    When I last spoke to him about 9 months ago he said he was intending to go over to USA and meet Inland people in person to try and explain. He was trying to get a batch of 50 made. Don't know what the current situation is, not that a all new build is what you are looking for though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeeRam View Post
    From when I looked at it a couple of years ago, as I really fancied one myself, its just pot luck as to the origin of the bits that they are assembled from.
    I also believe that LuxDefTec no longer make them or the M14's they were doing.
    I know Ian at ITL has been trying to get a batch of the new USAicon made Inland Carbines, but they didn't want to know. He told me they wanted to make them by welding up the gas port, even though they drill them on the production line. He gave up trying to explain them just don't drill them, but they didn't get it. Ian said to me that welded up ports are not UKicon legal.
    When I last spoke to him about 9 months ago he said he was intending to go over to USA and meet Inland people in person to try and explain. He was trying to get a batch of 50 made. Don't know what the current situation is, not that a all new build is what you are looking for though.
    They are doing them, the one pictured was purchased this month. They are sold out of L1A1's though

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