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    Possible NM rifle? Any way to verify?

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    Received from the CMPicon last week as a field grade. 2979807 is the serial number.

    This is what I found and is summarized from a day of reading old posts. The barrel is marked with NM close to the breach, large P with punch mark, 5 point star, Large T, and an upside down drawing number SA-F6635448 (hard to read), but the date is not upside down and its 4-54. It is also marked NM on the left side by the gas cylinder. From what I read the star signifies a 1962 rifle, and the NM on the left was only applied after it was assembled into a rifle

    I am trying to figure out if this barrel was put on after this time period or if it truly is one of the 1962 rifles that has been stripped of all its other NM parts over time. The receiver has quite a bit of pitting under the wood line and over all condition is pretty bad with the exception of the barrel. Pictures in the link below.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunray View Post
    Sunray Thank You, I found much of this information in my searches.

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    Given the condition of the barrel versus the receiver my guess would be it acquired the NM barrel as part of a rebuild.

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    I bought a type one NM M1icon, #6095050, at the National Matches, Camp Perry, OH in 1958. I believe it has the 54 dated barrel and a large star on the left side of the barrel above the gas cyl.

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    Per the serial #, it was built before October of 1945. I noticed it has the "post war" trigger guard/group. Can anyone advise when they got rid of the winter trigger hole? Despite its condition, still a very nice Garandicon!

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    Late WW2 they transitioned to the stamped guard with milled hook, then all post war were the stamped guards. Thanks for the info on your rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4ds4me View Post
    Late WW2 they transitioned to the stamped guard with milled hook, then all post war were the stamped guards. Thanks for the info on your rifle.

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    Thanks for your input, that’s why I’m asking the question is there a way to verify it? The barrel has been on for a while has some minor pitting around the mating surface, It was obviously used as a service rifle at some point, and it is a CMPicon rifle so I’m not concerned about a home build.

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    Please forgive my ignorance and this is probably a stupid question but,how does a rifle become so pitted below the woodline? I have seen a lot of rifles that are pitted above the wood line, but I don't ever recall seeing one pitted below the wood. It seems like if any area of the rifle would be pitted, it would be above the wood line.
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