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    WHEN DO YOU CALL IT A DAY?

    We ain't getting any younger, and its great to see the younger element on the site availing themselves of the knowledge of so many experienced people in the shooting world, who, by their very being, and the weapons they know so much about, gives some indication on their collective ages!!

    I have recently put in place that knowledge to my family in case I fall off my perch. My son is still serving in the Army, so no worries there, but it is always the immediate family that have to tidy up so many loose ends we guys leave behind should something unforeseen happen.
    I'm not like many on here, who hold oodles of weapons, and each, at a specific value in "our minds". So what happens when you are not around to consult?
    Books like Ian Skennertons or Peter Laidlers fine works on classic firearms, what would someone who knew nothing of their original cost, let them go for?

    I only raise this now, as I lost a close friend who was an avid shooter like all of us and collector of firearms. Much of his "estate" was dispersed to dealers who wanted the best deal for themselves, which is understandable, leaving the family well behind where they should be. Luckily it was the books that filled in the missing gap on finance. In some cases the books raising more then some weapons!!

    So guys in short, take a moment to think about what you have, and how you would like it to be disceminated, don't let your families miss out............prices are rising all the time on classic firearms!!!
    'Tonight my men and I have been through hell and back again, but the look on your faces when we let you out of the hall - we'd do it all again tomorrow.' Major Chris Keeble's words to Goose Green villagers on 29th May 1982 - 2 PARA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Boyd View Post
    We ain't getting any younger, and its great to see the younger element on the site availing themselves of the knowledge of so many experienced people in the shooting world, who, by their very being, and the weapons they know so much about, gives some indication on their collective ages!!

    I have recently put in place that knowledge to my family in case I fall off my perch. My son is still serving in the Army, so no worries there, but it is always the immediate family that have to tidy up so many loose ends we guys leave behind should something unforeseen happen.
    I'm not like many on here, who hold oodles of weapons, and each, at a specific value in "our minds". So what happens when you are not around to consult?
    Books like Ian Skennertons or Peter Laidlers fine works on classic firearms, what would someone who knew nothing of their original cost, let them go for?

    I only raise this now, as I lost a close friend who was an avid shooter like all of us and collector of firearms. Much of his "estate" was dispersed to dealers who wanted the best deal for themselves, which is understandable, leaving the family well behind where they should be. Luckily it was the books that filled in the missing gap on finance. In some cases the books raising more then some weapons!!

    So guys in short, take a moment to think about what you have, and how you would like it to be disceminated, don't let your families miss out............prices are rising all the time on classic firearms!!!
    The gun collectors prayer:
    "Lord, Please don't let my wife sell my guns for what I told her I paid..."

    In my documents for those left behind, I named 2 people I know to be honest to help value and evaluate the "stuff".

    They won't know what most of the stuff actually is, but they will be knowledgeable enough to know what has value, and who to ask for information.

    I'm helping a friend's family, and the "honest & very helpful dealers" evaluated the collection about 20% of the actual value, and pressured the widow to accept an immediate cheque... which would have made most people (including the widow) VERY happy.

    I'm pretty sure that they are extremely happy that they asked for a second opinion...
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    I have a document (that is currently woefully out of date) with a few details on my firearms, photographs, and an approximate value.

    As an example:

    Kragicon-Jorgenson 1898
    Estimated Replacement Value: $700

    -Serial Number 118749
    Serial indicates manufacture between July 1st, 1898, and June 30th, 1899.

    · Issued in 1899 to Co. D, 3rd Kentucky Volunteer Infantry, according to the Springfield Research Service.


    I really need to update this document. Thanks for the reminder!

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    I did this some time ago. My adult sons and daughter know every thing I have. The boys get to split everything that shoots 50-50. I even had them go through what I have and sort who gets what. Everything else is split three ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcathey View Post
    I have a document (that is currently woefully out of date) with a few details on my firearms, photographs, and an approximate value.

    As an example:

    Kragicon-Jorgenson 1898
    Estimated Replacement Value: $700

    -Serial Number 118749
    Serial indicates manufacture between July 1st, 1898, and June 30th, 1899.

    · Issued in 1899 to Co. D, 3rd Kentucky Volunteer Infantry, according to the Springfield Research Service.


    I really need to update this document. Thanks for the reminder!
    It's a helpful place to start, but my friend (who badgered me to create an inventory) put his "current inventory" somewhere that it hasn't been located yet.

    Several weeks into the process we located some of his "old" inventory and notes - but no "current" documentation has been located yet.

    Make sure that your family can find your notes and inventory, put a date on any documents that you create, put the cost you paid and the approximate date of purchase.

    Notes regarding why you paid $7,000 for what appears to be a $250 rifle are important, along with a list of any accessories which belong together.
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    I had over 100 pieces in my collection , started to sell them off about 4 years ago . Got way more for them than I figured I would and a whole lot more than what I paid for them . Didn't have anybody to leave them to that would cherish them . Got a half a dozen up for sale now , another half a dozen will go up in a few more years , the few left are working guns that I'll prob'ly have till I'm gone .
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    I'm in that area what Gil is talking about I have a few books though I am not a book shop I seem to collect them some have value and I have never really sat down to fathom and troll the net to get an idea of values like Skennertons (Have them all including a presentation copy) or Peters book on the T, the Bean Series on the AIF in WWI, 1st Ed's of Jim Corbetts & other hunters, with a 1000+ others which is a conservative estimate.
    My wife has nagged me for quite a while over her fears of me going and her being left with a large amount of inert ordnance, live collectible ammunition, rifles, my fathers WWII medals and hat badges from a distant relative in the 12ALH and 25th ALH and a fleet of M/cycles.

    The hardest thing is who do you trust I have collecting friends but would they help my wife instead of themselves I cannot say and getting what you think a thing is worth to what it is actually worth can be streets apart.
    I have a little brand new unread soft cover called The Last Wolf By Cox look that up on ABEbooks.com if they still have a copy for sale or try Amazon yeah its expensive, same a Peters book ABE have them for $400 who will pay that I had 3 copies so sold one for $96 of fleabay as to advertise it for $400 no one would touch it.
    And me being 14 years my wife's senior there is the very real possibility of me going before her though the saving grace is my nephew who is an AFP Federal Detective who will be handling my affairs for my wife as to say he is thorough and drives a hard bargain is an understatement and if you try to shaft him then be it at your own peril.

    But there is validity in Gils statement chaps how many times have we seen the stuff go for a mere pittance because unscrupulous dealers rip unsuspecting people off yes they need a mark up but to fleece people in a time of abject sorrow is wrong and like stealing. May be a good time to update my will and talk to my wife about it more to get a plan in place.

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