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    Fake parts

    Is there a reason when forum members can unequivocally determine that a fake part is sold as original, after repeated sales, that SOMEONE cannot bring charges against the seller for fraud? Selling such parts either over email or the Post Office is a federal offense. Iím sure this has been discussed before, but I am new and apologize.


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    I guess its up to the buyer of the said parts to instigate action towards the seller may get a bit tricky with this site arbitrating in a court of law as if for some reason they are incorrect then the buyer can turn around and decimate ones bank balance along with suing your date off for everything you own, best do your own homework if your gunna go that way. And I do not think asking someone here to state it then you say well this person said on that site and drag them into a possible nasty court action. Not trying to be a kill joy nor stop you doing what you may wish to do but you'll find it hard I think I could be wrong have been before. Good luck which ever way you go.

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    Part of the problem may be in establishing an acceptable reference point for identifying items as authentic versus fake, followed by establishing a fair value of the items in contention. Then you have to consider if the injuries are enough in the jurisdiction where it happened (ordered? delivered? venue used?). Hence some scammers get away with it.

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    Not sure what the law is in the States but I have to assume they are not to disimular from the rest of the world, and certainly the UKicon, especially when it comes to parts for firearms.

    Fake car parts and firearms parts must rank pretty high on the target for prosecution list by local authorities. If you are 100% certain, go for it and notify the proper authorities before the person kills someone..............IMHO
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    Most all fake Carbine parts sellers on ebay have been notified and most all turn into sub-humans for being outed. That goes for rollers, or so-and-soSellsFakeHistory, k-whoever in Myrtle Beach. What really irks them is being made to lie again. So please, everyone message them that they are selling counterfeit parts. They sell fakes along with real parts so tweak them whenever they sell fakes.

    Doesn't it just come down to what will be enforced? Because I've appeared once before a judge to gain a Writ of Possession for a company and it was granted because it was lawful. However, the judge advised that she wouldn't do it again so don't bring one another forward. Benefit goes to the crooks. Squatters all over the States are stealing from property owners and there is no remediation for lost expenses and missed earnings. You can gain a judgement but collecting is the next step.

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    The big problem with the so called dealers like the infamous George out west is that he sells you a fake rear sight. You down the road find out its fake and contact him for a refund . He refuses and you say you will take him to court. He would say do you have a recite saying its real? You won't as he doesn't send them. You claim his web site shows those same sights as being real. He would say not really. Just makes it appear to be real in pictures and wording. He is a pro. He has been through all of this time and time again but he is still in business. So to protect yourself look at what is being sold. IF the seller has a bunch of sights that appear to be the type 1 flip sight then something is wrong. Originals are few and far between. This holds true for any carbine parts. Sights, barrel bands early hammers just about any parts. So its buyer beware. I would suggest that if your looking for an original part then study what they look like. Compare and look closely. You can and will see the differences. If your still not sure ask someone who knows. Ask here as all of the good people here will help you out.

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    Too, if this is a one time thing and you've been stung, so have we all. One time or another we can all tell you about a very poor to foolish deal we've made that's led us to learn. Sometimes you just end up eating it and moving on. Yes, sometimes it costs you but hopefully not too much. A single part is better than falling into a whole carbine for thousands... Lesson learned and move on, look before jumping next time. Guys on here will help you decide as much as possible. Pics for us are invaluable.
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    Knowledge is king in this hobby, but getting there will certainly be a bumpy, imperfect journey filled with both reward and regret. The best piece of advice I can give for a newb is to take things slowly, ask lots of questions and learn from as many different sources as possible. Finally, there's lot of publications and websites out there to learn from, just remember that NONE of them are the perfect thing.

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    Buying bolts is a safer prospect.
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    Normally your right but with old what his face out west he has even make fakes of those. Heck he even has counterfeited barrels from what I have been informed. Nothing is beyond a buck with him.

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