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    Nice score. really nice score. You are lucky to find that weapon for essentially nothing... see if you can find the scope and mount since you are on a roll. The Kern scopes are extremely uncommon.


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    There is everything here. Switzerlandicon is just around the corner. Actually, they are not very expensive here...
    34a cp., btg. Susa, 3° rgt. Alpini

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    Just out of curiosity, how do they down-convert these rifles from fully automatic to semi automatic in your part of the world?

    I can see a stud welded on the receiver in your photos that prevents the fire control lever from moving past Einzelfeuer (single fire) to Mitrailleuse (Rapid Fire). Is this the limit to the modifications to the gun much like the Britishicon did with the SLR, or have they also deprecated the auto-sear and other elements of the fire control group?

    It's interesting the way that in the US we can't have any down converted full auto guns, the receivers would have to be chopped up for import.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hcompton79 View Post
    Just out of curiosity, how do they down-convert these rifles from fully automatic to semi automatic in your part of the world?

    I can see a stud welded on the receiver in your photos that prevents the fire control lever from moving past Einzelfeuer (single fire) to Mitrailleuse (Rapid Fire). Is this the limit to the modifications to the gun much like the Britishicon did with the SLR, or have they also deprecated the auto-sear and other elements of the fire control group?

    It's interesting the way that in the US we can't have any down converted full auto guns, the receivers would have to be chopped up for import.
    Hi Hunter, look at this interesting video from Bloke on The Range.
    At minute 29:30 approximately it explains what has been done to “demilitarise” the rifles.
    Mine is exactly like that.
    I guess they are modified in Switzerlandicon directly, and sold as civilian versions from the beginning.

    34a cp., btg. Susa, 3° rgt. Alpini

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    Ah, I see. Largely similar to how one would go about building a Semi-Auto gun from a parts kit here, albeit without the "once a machine gun, always a machine gun" rule employed in the United Statesicon.

    It's interesting that in the US there is a stigma that European gun ownership is practically non-existent, because the laws are particularly strict. However, as this example shows that is not always the case and sometimes the reverse is true.

    Anyway, Good luck and happy shooting with your rifle. It looks like a fantastic machine.

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    I took her out on Saturday.
    Didn’t shoot much because I had a minor issue due to the reloaded ammo and, since I don’t like to have live ammo stuck in the chamber (I took off the stock, the trigger assembly and then hammered with a wooden mallet on the charging handle to get the round out), I decided to stop and go back to the range with factory ammo next time.
    But...hey, that rifle is really special.
    It is like shooting a .22 LR, no recoil at all.
    The brass is so hot, that it melted the net of my Caldwell case catcher.
    Trigger is bad, but surely possible to improve.
    The front sight post is very wide.
    I shot this one after shooting my ultra gorgeous Peruvianicon 1909, so I noticed all the mentioned little things, but in general, I liked her a lot.
    Certainly I won’t be shooting her much, but every now and then...
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    34a cp., btg. Susa, 3° rgt. Alpini

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    I'm dying to know what the ammo problem was, not enough chamfer on the outside of a trimmed case mouth? Wouldn't chamber correctly? Need a small base sizing die? Wish I could have been there to see and help... Otherwise, it works fine.
    Regards, Jim

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    I was shooting mine and thought the trigger was heavy as well, so I use the winter trigger now and it feels and shoots better for me. No idea why..

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    Jim,

    I had the bolt almost completely closed, just a tad back still.
    The hammer would hit the striker, but that was not hitting the primer strongly enough, it just nicked it.
    What "****ed me off" a bit is that when I got the bolt back, the bullet was stuck in the barrel, just a tiny bit, and got loose from the case.
    All rounds were fully resised, I checked the length of each of them, so I'm sure that the ammo was ok. 76,0 mm is the same length of commercial ammo, so it should be perfectly ok.
    I too thought about the chamfer, which might be the only thing left...
    I'll take off the primer when I'm back home on the week-end and check if maybe it just went off, but the powder did not ignite, but I don't really believe it.
    All that came out was good, expensive N140.

    Speckles, I hate to say that I just didn't think about that.
    Next move!

    Saturday, if everything works out well, I'll be back at the range, but I guess I'll have to scratch another itch: my Carcano 91. And then my Persian Mauser...
    But the FASS/Stgw 57 will be back soon.
    34a cp., btg. Susa, 3° rgt. Alpini

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    If the primers were fired then the powder should have...still sounds like an overall length thing, bullet in LEAD or commencement... Would have like to watch. Good thing they didn't go if it were out of battery a bit...
    Regards, Jim

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