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    'EddieB' - The rear-sight on your Kragicon purchase is a model 1896 sight. You also have the model 1896 hand-guard. (You are correct the sight slide is on backwards. The 'locking-knob' should be on the right side of the leaf).

    Krag hand-guards are sight specific: the 1896 sight takes the hand-guard that you have, the model 1898 and 1902 sights use a different sight opening, and the 1901 sight uses yet a different opening.

    If you change rear-sight models, you have to change to the appropriate hand-guard.



    What is the serial number of your Krag? What source did you look up the date in? Some on-line material is wrong.

    Because there was a lot of 'musical chairs' with Krag rear-sights, during updates, the model 1896 sight can be correct on some model 1898 U.S. Krag rifles.

    The tape adhesive should dissolve and remove easy with linseed oilicon or "Howard's Wax and Feed" on a rag with some hard rubbing. (You can try turpentine or mineral spirits first and finish up with Linseed or Howard's).

    Some photos to assist taking your sight apart and identifying various Krag hand-guards:

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    Quote Originally Posted by butlersrangers View Post
    What is the serial number of your Kragicon? What source did you look up the date in? Some on-line material is wrong.

    Because there was a lot of 'musical chairs' with Krag rear-sights, during updates, the model 1896 sight can be correct on some model 1898 U.S. Krag rifles.

    The tape adhesive should dissolve and remove easy with linseed oilicon or "Howard's Wax and Feed" on a rag with some hard rubbing. (You can try turpentine or mineral spirits first and finish up with Linseed or Howard's).

    Some photos to assist taking your sight apart and identifying various Krag hand-guards:
    First of all, thanks for all the info and pictures.

    I looked the serial number up here: U.S. Military Dates of Manufacture

    I tried using raw linseed oilicon and and it seemed like it was making a difference, but very hard to tell. I finally toke some photos so that I can refer back to determine if my efforts are being rewarded. My though was if just the linseed oil doesn't work I would try a 50/50 of mineral spirits and raw linseed oil, I hesitate because I don't want to alter the tone\character of the stock. But if that is what it takes, I will give it a try.

    I will post an update of what I found in braking the gun down.

    Thanks again for you feedback.

    ---------- Post added at 10:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:28 AM ----------

    When cleaning the gun I noticed that there were hairline cracks in the stock at the bottom of the magazine on both sides and at the tang. The action screws were loose and I bet that is what caused the issue in the previous use. I would really like to shoot this gun, are there any good replacement stocks out there? or trusted stock repair contacts?

    Barrel also appears to be a replacement because it appears to be a green parkerized finish. Noticed the rear sight was loose and apon removal it appears one of the screws are broken in the barrel and the other just doesn't look right. I guess I will be making a trip to my gunsmith.

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    Your Kragicon has a six digit serial number. If you share the first three or four digits and complete the sequence with "X"s, other sources can be checked for likely production period.

    A complete serial number allows checking SRS Data for documentation.

    Krag rear-sight screws measure .156" diameter X 30 T.P.I.
    Original and reproduction screws show up on eBay and can be got from S&S Firearms (Glendale, N.Y.). You will not find these at hardware stores or most gun-shops. (Different screw heads are specific to the various Krag sights).

    The green 'parkerizing' is not a Springfield Armory practice.

    Fine cracks in the stock, behind the tang and in front & behind the magazine, are not rare. They can be stabilized with epoxy-bedding.

    Few Gunsmiths these days are knowledgeable about Krags.
    (IMHO - The rear trigger-guard screw should be snug, but, not overly tightened; this can contribute to stock cracks).

    Krag hand-guards are easily cracked. DO NOT SNAP ON AND OFF Barrel.

    With rear-sight and stock removed, slide hand-guard toward muzzle, until reduced barrel diameter allows easy removal, (Install in reverse).

    Store hand-guard with Quarter twisted in rear hand-guard 'spring-clip' and Penny or Nickel twisted in front 'spring-clip'. This counter-balances tension on wood.

    BTW - On model 1896 sights, the front screw often has a thick head and the rear screw is flush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by butlersrangers View Post
    Kragicon rear-sight screws measure .156" diameter X 30 T.P.I.
    Original and reproduction screws show up on eBay and can be got from S&S Firearms (Glendale, N.Y.). You will not find these at hardware stores or most gun-shops. (Different screw heads are specific to the various Krag sights).

    Fine cracks in the stock, behind the tang and in front & behind the magazine, are not rare. They can be stabilized with epoxy-bedding.

    Few Gunsmiths these days are knowledgeable about Krags.
    (IMHO - The rear trigger-guard screw should be snug, but, not overly tightened; this can contribute to stock cracks).

    Krag hand-guards are easily cracked. DO NOT SNAP ON AND OFF Barrel.

    With rear-sight and stock removed, slide hand-guard toward muzzle, until reduced barrel diameter allows easy removal, (Install in reverse).

    Store hand-guard with Quarter twisted in rear hand-guard 'spring-clip' and Penny or Nickel twisted in front 'spring-clip'. This counter-balances tension on wood.
    GREAT information.

    I know I will need the sight screw information and make sure that I always remove the hand guard properly.

    I never though about the tension on the wood, I will make sure when it is removed that is how it is stored.


    Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge.

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    krags

    I have wanted a Kragicon for years. Finally found one in a small gun show.
    Model of 1898 and bubba got to it first. Barrel cut down to 25 inches, hand guard long gone and stock cut down. But,probably had the best looking barrel I have seen in years. Sporting style ramp front sight and the windage adjustable rear military sight. The Krag is a natural for cast bullets. 311284 which was made for the Krag. Since bore dimensions on various models can vary.Be sure to slug your barrel if you wish to shoot cast bullets in your new Krag. Lyman aalso has a 314299 that while was developed for Britishicon rifles, can be used in the Krag. And if you shoot cast bullets, be prepared to do some cleaning in the barrel. Copper residue and cast bullets do not play well together. Mine has the cartouche stamped in the stock dating it to 1903. Have fun. Frank

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