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    Hey all; looking for some help on some recent parts that were sold on a well known auction site by the seller, hampelguns . The parts were listed on or close to Jan. 25th

    The parts I am trying to track down are as follows. I have not found all the original links yet.

    The parts were removed from this.
    IBM M1 Carbine .30 Carbine Barreled Receiver #5521 - Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com : 854669930




    The remaining parts that were removed by seller, including the stock & hg; I already have in my possession.
    IBM-M1-CARBINE-3731388 - Google Photos

    As most can imagine, I would be very appreciative to anyone helping me return these parts to the carbine, from which they came.

    I have cross posted this on the CC & CMPicon forum. Thank you
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    Front sight ears were trimmed and the rear sight was Vee notched on one aperture.

    Maybe ask the seller to contact the buyer to about an offer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tenOC View Post
    Front sight ears were trimmed and the rear sight was Vee notched on one aperture.

    Maybe ask the seller to contact the buyer to about an offer?


    A message has been sent to the original seller asking for such assistance. Waiting on reply.

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    You have some problems with your carbine. Start with the filled sling well. Then if you want an original front and rear sight then a type 2 front sight and type 1 rear. Be advised just about all if not all the rear sights offered on Ebay are FAKE reproductions. The set you linked too is a modified front sight as the protectors have been removed. Did you pay the $800 for the barreled receiver? The receiver looks good in that it has no crater stake marks from an adjustable rear sight and that's good for a restoration. Stay away from Riverbank out in the land of fruits and nuts, California. He sells fake parts. Finding real rear sights is something you have to wait to find. One here and one there but never a bunch together. Not cheap to find an original. You will also need an unmarked swivel or one marked KV-B. Good luck in your quest but take your time. Ask questions here. AND get a good reference book like Riesch's M1icon Carbine Wartime Production. A good book for around $25 or less. I think it's in the 8th edition now. He updates it with each new edition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce McAskill View Post
    You have some problems with your carbine. Start with the filled sling well. Then if you want an original front and rear sight then a type 2 front sight and type 1 rear. Be advised just about all if not all the rear sights offered on Ebay are FAKE reproductions. The set you linked too is a modified front sight as the protectors have been removed. Did you pay the $800 for the barreled receiver? The receiver looks good in that it has no crater stake marks from an adjustable rear sight and that's good for a restoration. Stay away from Riverbank out in the land of fruits and nuts, California. He sells fake parts. Finding real rear sights is something you have to wait to find. One here and one there but never a bunch together. Not cheap to find an original. You will also need an unmarked swivel or one marked KV-B. Good luck in your quest but take your time. Ask questions here. AND get a good reference book like Riesch's M1icon Carbine Wartime Production. A good book for around $25 or less. I think it's in the 8th edition now. He updates it with each new edition.
    Thanks for the reply Bruce. I have all the real IBM parts in my inventory required, if I just wanted to put it back together in correct fashion. I am looking for the parts, which I have most of already, that were actually removed from this specific carbine by seller. I am more of a CCNL's or Ruth kind of guy but do own Riesch's 8th edition. Removing the filler in sling well and I-Cut, will be a fun project for sure. Yep; the barreled receiver is a winner; no bayo band pad wear or shadowing either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncin1911 View Post
    Removing the filler in sling well and I-Cut, will be a fun project for sure.
    David, I had the same sort of problem with an S'G' Carbine about 10 years ago. Not an I cut, but it had an additional problem of an embedded metal piece for attaching the sling, as well as an extension at the rear. I had never done any stock work before, but just thought it all out, and then proceeded with a lot of care. It didn't turn out perfect, but was better than I had expected. I had the gun on my table at an Oregon Arms Collector show about a year ago, and a couple of pretty knowledgeable guys were inspecting it closely. I overheard one explain to the other that the stock had probably been damaged during the war and later repaired at an arsenal facility! Removing the wood filler without causing further damage was a major concern, but was much easier than figuring out how to replace the stock extension. Good luck with your project, it looks like an interesting one! - Bob
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    Very nice work indeed Bob. Thank you for sharing. I am not a wood worker by any stretch of the imagination. I have enlisted the help of a friend and fellow carbine enthusiast, who has also saved his fair share, in similar condition. I am in hopes that others will come forward that purchased the parts I missed from seller, in order to put it back like it was. Dave


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    My S'G' had the front sight "modified" similar to yours. I traded a Type 2"POB" to a guy for a Type 1 "N" but decided to stay with the one original to the gun. Hope you can get those parts back! - Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by USGI View Post
    My S'G' had the front sight "modified" similar to yours. I traded a Type 2"POB" to a guy for a Type 1 "N" but decided to stay with the one original to the gun. Hope you can get those parts back! - Bob
    Was in hopes, as tenOC suggested, the seller would forward my contact info to the buyers but not sure that is going to happen. I certainly spent enough $ with them to incentivise helping a guy out to preserve it but at the same time understand why they may not choose to do that. I still have not found were they had listed the trigger, so not sure it was for whatever reason. Keeping the faith my threads will find the buyers; luckily all is not lost and I have the majority of it.
    If nothing else, perhaps this will be a testament to others in regards to preserving history.

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    I'd think chances would be good for getting the front sight back first.

    Weird things happen. Items turn up later when you think it's over and done. I dropped out of bidding on a LeMans once at $8XX at a public auction and left. A yard owner rubbed it in that the winner drove it off the lot once a key was made and said I screwed up. About 6 months later the car was at another auction and I got it for $450 before fees, in identical condition.
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