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    Never thought of this!

    Learnt through a doco a special ops group in the VN war were inserted miles behind the lines with the task of spying on the NVA in the area covertly but they had already been spotted.
    They posted their guard for the night after selecting a well concealed spot they then settled in for the night at some point in the night they were awoken to the blood curdling screams coming from the SGT's spot.
    They investigated only finding a bloody patch on the ground where he was to have been sleeping, they waited till dawn then followed the blood trial finally discovering his body.
    It had been partially eaten and in the distance they heard and saw the tall grass moving and the growl of a predator not happy with them finding his kill.
    A Tiger charged them from the grass they opened fire but missed the tiger tried again but still not hit but beaten off.
    The group collected his body and choppered out as the gig was up after shooting at the Tiger.

    A latter group was inserted into that area and managed to kill the tiger that took the SGT.
    7 GI's lost there lives to the tigers in VN a fact I was not aware of as if mosquito's & other critters with the jungle plus the NVA & their booby traps were not enough to contend with.

    Thats what I learnt no doubt in WWII also some fell foul in the African areas as well as India or Sumatra!
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    I have often wondered what those statistics were. Also wonder how many snake bight casualties were logged.

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    Stories were told about how the FNG's were told that everything in the Vietnamese jungles was out to get you. Everything bit or stung.
    Carlos Hathcock was sneaking up on a VC General by crawling through grass when he came literally face to face with a bamboo viper(little fellow at no more than 30" long. Cobras are measured in feet. Sometimes 17 of 'em.), aka the Two Step. One bite from the thing and you were dead in 2 steps. Hathcock's encounter ended in what could be called 'professional courtesy' and the snake slithered off. Supposedly, only 25-50 snakebite incidents occurred annually in US forces.
    Oh and a net search for 'tiger attack Vietnam war" turns up 5,770,000 results. Here kitty, kitty. snicker.
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    Jeez Sunray you'd want a bloody big tin of Whiskers cat food if your calling a Tiger to dinner to make sure you dont end up getting chomped!!!!!!!!!!

    Yes Carlos's 5 day monumental crawl to kill the target and the one shot he regretted as there was a serious spike in U.S casualties after that target was eliminated, it took Carlos 1/2 an hour to take a sip of water from his canteen such was the dedication of slow movement. The snake encounter happened at a distance of a few inches and shows steel nerves not to flinch or any sudden movement lest be detected.
    The crawl out took 2 days and according to Carlos was at light speed in his words apparently it must move a bit slower in his universe, a great marksman and tactician that few could better with selfless disregard for his safety and injuries when the LVT-5 hit that anti-tank mine some say he should have got the MOH for his actions regarding this incident.
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    1968, I killed a bamboo viper that crawled between my feet whilst wearing Ho Chi Minh sandals (a story for another time). A mate killed a cobra with a full auto M16icon burst feet from a Sigs Captain from the unit he was attached to. That same year, a grunt with the 173rd got venom sprayed in his face by a cobra as it struck at him as he rolled out of the way. Oh, there was nothing like lying up in a laager or a set ambush in the dead of night and not knowing what was possibly lying next to you. 1969, a number of GIs died from sea snake bites at Vung Tau and Cam Rhan Bay.

    Viet Nam was such a fun place, and it's still taking some of us out thanks to Agent Orange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul S. View Post
    Viet Nam was such a fun place, and it's still taking some of us out thanks to Agent Orange.
    Lost a friend to AO a while back. I think of him often.
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    "...Jeez Sunray..." Big cat. Little cat. They're all the same to me. Once I get my mitts behind their ears they all purr. Except tigers 'chuff' when they're happy. Cheetahs and cougars(the big kitty kind. The other kind is too scary.) purr.
    I was trained by a cat that hated everybody but me and she wasn't worried about how she taught. She bit my big toe one morning. Seems I made an unauthorized move. snicker.
    "...Carlos's 5 day monumental crawl..." Eight hours for 100 yards as I recall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CINDERS View Post
    Learnt through a doco a special ops group in the VN war were inserted miles behind the lines with the task of spying on the NVA in the area covertly but they had already been spotted.
    They posted their guard for the night after selecting a well concealed spot they then settled in for the night at some point in the night they were awoken to the blood curdling screams coming from the SGT's spot.
    They investigated only finding a bloody patch on the ground where he was to have been sleeping, they waited till dawn then followed the blood trial finally discovering his body.
    It had been partially eaten and in the distance they heard and saw the tall grass moving and the growl of a predator not happy with them finding his kill.
    A Tiger charged them from the grass they opened fire but missed the tiger tried again but still not hit but beaten off.
    The group collected his body and choppered out as the gig was up after shooting at the Tiger.

    A latter group was inserted into that area and managed to kill the tiger that took the SGT.
    7 GI's lost there lives to the tigers in VN a fact I was not aware of as if mosquito's & other critters with the jungle plus the NVA & their booby traps were not enough to contend with.

    Thats what I learnt no doubt in WWII also some fell foul in the African areas as well as India or Sumatra!
    Strange and bazaar things can occur in war.

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    My Siamese is an ambusher attacking only me sadly he is a few roo's short in the top paddock and predictable coming from the same spot no claws just jumps at the back of my leg then hare's off with the aerial tail held aloft ascending to the top of my lounge chair with a look of "See I am the best and sneakiest of all!"

    Sorry to hear that HOH,

    On the farm I worked on in '70's we used 24D & 245T for Apple of Sodom control just wearing shorts & T-shirt and cartridge respirators that were not posi fitted so you would get by pass around the mask proper mixed in a tractor towed 1000L tank I stood on a platform at the rear of it with a hand held sprayer we never considered wind direction nor drift and coloured it with red dye so we knew where we had been was a red indian for a while we did a month solid at it 5 days/week 8 hours/day.
    I often blame it for the loss of my first unborn but no proof, they also had us mixing up neat Formaldehyde as a foot bath for the dairy cattle just decant it neat straight from a 200L drum into a 1 gal bucket no PPE every morning when on dairy duty.

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