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    Steve,
    When this ALL settles down, I am sure stuff will be released that throws a lot of what we are doing as humans currently, into serious doubt, but until then WE as mere mortals have to conntinue to be gulible and follow scientific advice (or is that Government) who knows???

    Even experts like my son in the Army who worked on Ebola in Sierra Leone for 6 months, can't join up the dots.................suffice it to say.............its not as straight forward as we are all to believe.
    Time will tell and hopefully the "cause" will be held to some form of accountability, as its clear we can't go through a world wide pandemic like this again, 102 years after the last one!!!
    'Tonight my men and I have been through hell and back again, but the look on your faces when we let you out of the hall - we'd do it all again tomorrow.' Major Chris Keeble's words to Goose Green villagers on 29th May 1982 - 2 PARA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Boyd View Post
    Steve,
    When this ALL settles down, I am sure stuff will be released that throws a lot of what we are doing as humans currently, into serious doubt, but until then WE as mere mortals have to conntinue to be gulible and follow scientific advice (or is that Government) who knows???

    Even experts like my son in the Army who worked on Ebola in Sierra Leone for 6 months, can't join up the dots.................suffice it to say.............its not as straight forward as we are all to believe.
    Time will tell and hopefully the "cause" will be held to some form of accountability, as its clear we can't go through a world wide pandemic like this again, 102 years after the last one!!!

    well, not to be rude, but it seems you have a lot more faith in scientist (and govt) than I do.
    especially noticeable with all the "reversals" coming to light....

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    And then...it’ll be too late to call someone to take responsibility...
    We, as single human beings, can only follow the minimal rules of sensible behaviour for what we can understand right now. But I‘d really like to have the chance of addressing things face to face with those who might be recognised as responsible...even if in 20 years from now. I love milsurps ‘cause they tend to work even if veeeeery old...
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    So so..., after seven months, today we met our friends from the winter holidays.
    We were together during the carnival week at the end of February, just before the lockdown.
    We have three kids, one boy with 17 years, and two girls with 14 and 10. They have three girls with 16, 13 and 6 years.
    We meet in the mountains since 2008 and are very good, if distanced!, friends.
    The kids really enjoy each others company.
    This family is from Trieste, less than 100 km from here, but during the past months we never found a moment to meet.
    Today was the day.
    The kids grew up a lot, all of them. They just fell into each others arms as soon as they met.
    We did the same with the parents.
    It was a great moment of a wonderful day.
    We’ll keep meeting in the mountains for our week of skying, as we did in the past 8 years.

    Lately I started analyzing this pandemonium...
    I hate to feel being manoeuvered, manipulated, forced to accept things and situations I don’t like.
    But, if I look at all of this from another angle, a very private and intimate one, I must admit that this pandemics has changed my life for best.
    I know I’m priviledged. I work with the food and pharma industry, so this situation has not damaged me in any way, maybe it could almost be considered neutral.
    But it kept me home. Reduced my travel time by 80-90%.
    I have been with my wife from before my military duty. Actually, from 1992.
    Apart from the first 18 months before military, until July 1994, I have never been home for more than 10-15 days in a row.
    Now I have traveled for less than 20 days in 7 months.
    If I had to take a bet, I would have bet that I would drive crazy after two weeks.
    In fact, I have never enjoyed myself, my family...life! as much as I did since the start of this foolish thing.
    Today, meeting this family, people we meet each and every year, but only on the sky tracks, I again got this feeling of... I can’t explain.
    I was so happy, so thoroughly, deeply, strongly alive...glad to meet good people...
    This pandemic is crap, but it made me change my life. It brought me back to the real values.
    I’m scared to write it down in clear, plain words, but it made me a better person.
    Sincerely...I don’t want to go back to “normal” life.
    I want to keep traveling at a lower pace, making skype or teams meetings for all those “trivial” reasons for which I wasted so much time, family time, before.
    I said that earlier! I’m priviledged right now, working for the food and pharma industy, but I feel like it was time to somehow slow down and start focusing again on the real values...my kids, my wonderful, loving, unbelievably great and savvy wife.
    I love life as I never did before.
    Just felt I had to tell it to someone...
    Keep looking ahead my friends!
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    Thursday we spent the evening with my daughter and grandson. We have not spent much time with them since this started. I did some work in her house for about a week back in May, she brought him over for an hour or so in July and that's pretty much it. He's two. He's showing impact from this. He wasn't himself while we were there, not that we would know but Mom knew. I speculated it was because he wasn't around people and she agreed. Don't get me wrong, he knew us, he was happy to see us, he wanted to show off, he called Grandma by her title for the very first time. He's called me Pap Pap for over a year. But this has to be hurting him somewhat developmentally.

    I just read an article today about suicides among kids being at an alarming rate. One hospital in Texas, ONE HOSPITAL is seeing one child suicide a DAY. Pennsylvania still has not had a single death from Covid under the age of 20.

    I too think we have failed this pandemic miserably and with this and the resulting fiasco, when a REAL pandemic hits, I think we may be doomed. No one is going to want to repeat this.

    I also enjoyed the slow down, for a while anyway. But I'm never a fast mover anyway, never have been. I can get along with minimal contact now because my normal life involves minimal contact. I have my clients, my family and a couple of close friends and that's my social circle

    My wife on the other hand is suffering from serious depression. In her mind, everything she loves to do has been taken away from her. She's shut down somewhat. And it's not really the social events either, not directly. We love our events, our fairs, our car shows, our renaissance fairs, our races, high school football games, church etc and all have been cancelled one after another and she's been counting them down. They even cancelled things into January of next year already. Things we have gone to every year since we've been married.

    I'm now just tired. Tired of all the bullcrap. The science has caught up with this and it isn't what they said it was but the politicians are still acting like it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragorn243 View Post
    I'm now just tired. Tired of all the bullcrap. The science has caught up with this and it isn't what they said it was but the politicians are still acting like it is.
    That is very true, I fear. Everywhere.
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    I have mixed feelings about this situation.
    The lockdown was a great experience for our family; we had 2 months together at our country cottage; fabulous weather and real quality time together. I agree ith Ovidio; it was very good for our family; no stress, no arguments or problems and no health issues. Plus you could not spend much money, so despite earning less; we saved more.

    However after lockdown; working back in the centre of Paris; it's not so nice. I think people are becoming less respectful of each other and a real lack of civillity. Many are really just out for themselves. Especially on the roads!
    A couple of weeks ago I was knocked off my bike by a van driving on the wrong side of the road; I had right of way, which he ignored completely; he was came onto my side to overtake a truck that was parked, yet kept driving towards me when I had left plenty of space for him to pass between the truck and myself. Basically he rammed into my bike, hit the pedal and i had to eject myself because the bike was getting dragged backwards. He drove over the rear wheel and drove off in a hurry. Luckily I wasn't hurt, but I was ****ed off. Bike was badly damaged too. There was at least 4 metres between where the bike was hit and the truck that was parked; so it seems to me it was deliberate. Why else would drive off?

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    Well- Update from Friday. Open 12:00PM to 6:00PM King Murphy's hours. Troy A4 Others gone! Savage/Stevens MSR-15s Gone! 9mm hollow points Gone! All of the S&W 9mm pistols Gone! Half of the 12 gauge Black Aces Tactical Pump shotguns gone! Only ARs left are 300 Blackout and 6.5mm Grendals. Surprisingly we had two Ruger PC9 Carbines which did not sale. Go figure! Most of the folks are newbies who are looking for the classic Glock 19 or 17. In our area you have a better chance of being the Pope then getting a Glock 9mm. Today will be another bat *hit crazy day with people coming in a day late for stuff that was gone yesterday! Today was a bit odd in that people were buying multiple firearms, such as a pistol and shotgun/rifle. Price was no problem either. Still getting the odd old guy coming in looking for the $300.00 9mm pistol which has not been available since the early March when all of this crap started. Strangely I was able to purchase an 8lb keg of Hy-Skor 700X for $145.00 there are bargains out there. Cheers

    PS-- I was too tired from the day to enjoy the bourbon! Had a quick bite to eat and went to bed to awake to another day of fun and games to the gunshop. Now I have to make all of the Savage MSR-15s NJ complaint.
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    Merle,
    No faith in them from this callsign.......................Gullible is what I said which I stand by. There's more going on here than a World Wide Pandemic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gil Boyd View Post
    Merle,
    No faith in them from this callsign.......................Gullible is what I said which I stand by. There's more going on here than a World Wide Pandemic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thanks - I'm glad to hear you were not taken in by the BS as so many have been....

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