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    Need help to ID some 7.62x25 ammo.

    Recently I bought a crate of 2 spam can 7.62x25 Tok ammo from Marstar Canadaicon.
    After I received the crate I found there were thousands of dead ants in the crate but luckily the spam cans were intact. The ants built a colony in the crate!

    The spam cans were painted green.

    There are 2 numbers and 2 stars on the head stamp.
    3 @ 12 o'clock location
    46 @ 6 o'clock location
    and 2 star @ 9 and 3 o'clock location.
    The ammo have brass cases and the projectiles attract to a magnet, so possibility steel jacket or steel core?

    Marstar said it is Russianicon surplus but I only saw copper washed steel case Russian 7.62x25 before, so I'd like have someone help me to ID this ammo. Also, does anyone know if these are steel core or not?

    Thanks for helping me!!
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    Looks like Russianicon to me. Why not section a bullet with a file and show us what's inside...cross section.
    Regards, Jim

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    It's 100% Russianicon, made at Ulyanovsk in 1946.


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    Thanks for the replies ! !

    I will try to pull one and section it and put up some photos

    1946 seems a long time ago, will it be safe to fire this ammo through my Tok?

    I have one Zastava M57, one polish Tok and a Chinese Type 54.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MVP View Post
    will it be safe to fire this ammo through my Tok
    Yep, it'll work fine.
    Regards, Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    Yep, it'll work fine.
    But being from 1946, it is definitely corrosive. Clean with a water based cleaner as soon as possible after shooting so it won't corrode your pistol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    Yep, it'll work fine.
    Good to hear! Thanks for the input!

    ---------- Post added at 10:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:16 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Hcompton79 View Post
    But being from 1946, it is definitely corrosive. Clean with a water based cleaner as soon as possible after shooting so it won't corrode your pistol.
    Yes I thought it would be corrosive. Usually I clean my Toks with hot water asap after the trip to the range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    Why not section a bullet with a file and show us what's inside...cross section.
    I pulled one and sectioned it today.

    I have two lot
    one is copper washed steel case from batch 38-77.
    Another is the brass case from 3-46
    The 38-77 has less powder than the 3-46 and the 38-77 is copper washed steel core and the 3-46 is copper washed lead core with steel jacket.

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    For the copper washed steel case and steel core surplus 7.62x25

    Headstamp 38-77
    "пистолетные патроны калибра 7,62 мм 70 шт." (7.62 mm pistol cartridges 70 pcs.) on box

    "7,62 пстгж" on crate.

    Brass primer cup and the primer type is "Berdan"

    Entire cartridge weight 10.0g, the projectile weight 5.5g, the case weight 4.3g and the powder weight 0.3g (I don't have an analytical balance so the weighs are approximately) .

    The projectile has a lead encasing at the bottom.
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    For the brass case copper washed steel jacket and lead core surplus 7.62x25

    Headstamp 3-46
    "пистолетные патроны калибра 7,62 мм 70 шт." (7.62 mm pistol cartridges 70 pcs.) on box

    "7,62 пгп" on crate.

    Berdan primer

    Entire cartridge weight 10.8g, the projectile weight 5.5g, the case weight 4.6g and the powder weight 0.7g (I don't have an analytical balance so the weighs are approximately) .

    The projectile has a lead encasing at the bottom.
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