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    30 May 20 Garand Picture of the Day



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    Brand newish looking 1907 slings on those M1 rifles, the army of pre war USAicon in about 1940/41...?
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    They are Marines could be late as 1942

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    Too bad we can't see the gas cylinders, with those helmets they could be Gas Traps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardX View Post
    could be late as 1942
    Yes, the Marines got the leftovers it always seemed and outdated gear. This one's early though, I'd bet on it. I know the watermark says USMC but I have my doubts...unless you can show me something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Seijasicon View Post
    Too bad we can't see the gas cylinders, with those helmets they could be Gas Traps.
    They look almost purposefully hidden. My James Bond riddled brain imagined this was a REALLY early picture and hiding the gas trap was a counter espionage move.

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    gas trap era pistol grip

    Almost to the end of gas trap production, the top of the pistol grip is almost round or a oval shape, when the new SA SPG stocks with the two equal sized holes entered service in mid 1940, the pistol grip is narrow like the ones in the photo. I would guess the rifles are early gas port

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Seijasicon View Post
    Too bad we can't see the gas cylinders, with those helmets they could be Gas Traps.
    Bob, they purposely hid those gas cylinder so you could not see them.
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    From the same photo series

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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    Yes, the Marines got the leftovers it always seemed and outdated gear. This one's early though, I'd bet on it. I know the watermark says USMC but I have my doubts...unless you can show me something else.

    They fit the Army summer dress uniforms to the "T", except for the tie... U.S. ARMY UNIFORMS QUICK REFERENCE VISUAL GUIDE
    Jim-- I believe your correct on that one, the tie was optional based on the local commander. I did love that uniform.

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