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    British Proof Marks? - Interesting Remington 521T Find

    I won a PROXIBID auction for a 1948 Remington 521T (damaged in shipping but another unfolding story) that I needed to almost complete my collection of Remington 500 series rifles.



    Upon inspection, I found stamps on the barrel, receiver, and bolt body that I have never run across on any Remington 500 series rifles, and I have looked at hundreds since I was a youngin'.

    I'm making the assumption that these are Britishicon Proof Marks since there is a Crown with the letters BNP stamped below it on the receiver and bolt body and 22LG (dot) 610" *TONS PER [] (square stamp)

    If these are British Proof Marks I have to wonder why, If it was for use with the military I would have thought the Remington 513T Miliraty variant would have been used over the 521T.

    There is also a Braverman PGM, PA. stamped into the bottom of the barrel, I'm guessing that it for Braverman Arms Co. is its a company located in PA. But still trying to research this one.

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    The 1933 Parker Hale catalogue I have here doesn't show this model, but it does show a considerable variety of American and Germanicon .22 rifles offered. There would be nothing surprising about such rifles being imported by a UKicon dealer AFAIK. Braverman was presumably the "re-importer" back into the USAicon.

    Am a bit shocked by the rough filing around the front edge of the receiver!

    M1907 sling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post
    M1907 sling?
    Looks like one of the 1" copies like "Uncle Mikes" makes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post
    The 1933 Parker Hale catalogue I have here doesn't show this model, but it does show a considerable variety of American and Germanicon .22 rifles offered. There would be nothing surprising about such rifles being imported by a UKicon dealer AFAIK. Braverman was presumably the "re-importer" back into the USAicon. Am a bit shocked by the rough filing around the front edge of the receiver! M1907 sling?
    You wouldn't have found it in a 1933 catalog, the 521T superseded the 521 TL "Junor Special" and wasn't produced until after mid-1957. The receivers are all ruff like that except on higher-end 500 series rifles like the 513T series, these were made on the cheap and formed out of drawn steel tubing. The same receiver was used on the variants of the 510's, 511's, 512's, 514, 521's, and 513's series. 'Almost' all parts interchange on these rifles, the 514 bolt being the biggest exception.

    while built cheap, these rifles are very accurate. Our gun club still uses them to teach the Jr. Shooters.

    The sling is not a M1907, but it was made in the same style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    Looks like one of the 1" copies like "Uncle Mikes" makes.
    Not sure what it is, it has pressed in designs on it. It must have been popular though, many rifles I have bought that pre-1970 had this sling, three of my Remington 500 series, a Pre-64 Win Model 70, and an old Glenfield Semi Auto 22 all had this same sling. This one, however, is in the best condition.
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    The markings are commercial, non military, proof markings. The rifle was exported to UKicon and proofed and later imported by Braverman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usabaker View Post
    to almost complete my collection of Remington 500 series rifles.
    That is cool. What do you still need to make the collection complete?
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    Quote Originally Posted by breakeyp View Post
    The markings are commercial, non military, proof markings. The rifle was exported to UKicon and proofed and later imported by Braverman.
    Why would they proof a foreign-made commercial rifle, is this a government requirement for imported arms? Looking around, it seems that at least the Crown with the letters BNP stamped below it are on some military arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atticus Thraxx View Post
    That is cool. What do you still need to make the collection complete?
    The heardest ones and the most expensive Routledge Bored and Skeetrap Rifle Model 510 Rifles and Model 513S
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    I can see why that line of Remington models would be attractive to collectors. I have a 513-T TM and a cool little 512X I won at auction when no one else bid on. Good for rats and such. Have the slightest little ding in the magazine tube and it's the only thing I see when I handle it, so I'll be addressing that at some point. I'll keep my eye's peeled for a local Routledge, I assume you saw the one on Gunbroker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atticus Thraxx View Post
    a cool little 512X I won at auction when no one else bid on. ... Routledge, I assume you saw the one on Gunbroker.
    Yeah, the one that's is over $600? I have a number of searches that run every day on the lookout for these and other things. That's the problem, the Routledge and Skeetrap go for over $500.00 no matter what condition they are in. But, I'm patient which has made it possible for me to -eventually- get what I'm looking for at prices I can afford. At some point in time one will pop-up that is not listed as a Routledge and Skeetrap, happened last year and I missed the auction. I haven't started collecting the 500X series yet. But, yeah those are sweet! I love the rear sight on those and the fact they have shorter barrels (taper is different too).

    I got hooked on the 500's years ago and have multiple of the same seems like I always find a "better" one. LOL for the ones I have multiple of the last count I think I have four 510's, two 511P's, three 512's, three 513T TM, 6 or 7 of the 513T Military and a bunch of parts and parts guns. I repair the ones at the range, so always looking for parts. One day I'll get around to sorting them all out and keeping just one of each, well two of the Military 513T since they came in two flavors of finish and markings.

    You can't beat the 500's as shooters, target, and small game hunters.
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    So this Remington 521T was absolutely beautiful and almost perfect condition I scored a home run at $250.00, or so I thought...

    The UPS guys were kind of rough with the box, I'm not going to blame the auction house because the bubble packing should have been sufficient. Anyhow, when I unwrapped the rifle I found the stock toe broke off and the bakelite buttplate shattered.

    You have NO idea how bummed I was. The Auction house has offered to fix it or allow me to return it. I think because of the UKicon Proof marks and the condition of the rest of the rifle I'm going let them fix it and keep it.

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