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    M4 bayonet's on A1's

    I know during the WW-2 era [late] that they did put the M4 bayonet on some M1 carbines, did they also put them on the M1A1icon's ?
    Have seen some era pic's of the M1 with the bayonet on them, but not seen any pic's of the M1A1 with one. thank's.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lboos View Post
    not seen any pic's of the M1A1icon with one
    Same here, never seen a bayo on a M1A1 during WWII.

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    I'd read or heard someplace that the whole rationale for the M3 fighting knife was to give paratroopers a blade because the carbine did not, initially, come with a bayonet. Of course, the M3 was the ancestor to the whole series of bayonets based on that blade pattern. M4 for the M1 carbine, M5 for M1 rifle, M6 for the M14icon and M7 for the M16. The silly *** M9 came out after Fort Benning became enamored of the finger lopping, AK toad stabber, wire cutter and bottle opener.

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    The reason I ask is I have a M1a1 that has all the mod's on it, I was thinking about removing the bayonet lug band and putting on a spare type 2 barrel band to make it look more like the ww2 era to display with some other items I have, the barrel on it has no dark area on it from where the bayonet lug was like most do. I know it will still have the adj. sight on it but I have seen pic's of the A1 with no bayonet lug, but with the adjust. sight in that era. ....or should I just leave it alone like it is ? what would you do, Thank's
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    It is a nice carbine as is. I would keep it the way it is.

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    Didn't they rebuild all M1A1s about the time of Korea and those mods went on? They all got the updates as a matter of course. I wouldn't change it, the only other way to have it would be the original configuration and that's not really possible.
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    In November 1944 inland started with the type 3 barrel bands. The first carbines to get them was the M1A1icon's. When the monthly production was reached any bands left over were used in normal carbine production.

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    Bruce,
    Thanks for that info. on the bayonet lug's on the A1's. I have never heard that before.
    I wonder what the reason for that was ?
    Where did you find that info ? I have looked all over with no luck, ...Thank's

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    I remember Brian made a similar post once, on one of the forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tenOC View Post
    I remember Brian made a similar post once, on one of the forums.
    ten,
    I don't understand your comment, did I post something wrong ?

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