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    Have given that a go now thanks!

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    The .280 Ross is an exotic lady, gorgeous, seductive, and high maintenance, with the ability to relieve you of your pay cheque with the alacrity of a lap dancer.
    I hope that you don't mind paying for your fun
    Some do, some don't; some will, some won't; I might ...

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    It's always good to know more, especially of lap dancing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NORTHOF60 View Post
    The .280 Ross is an exotic lady, gorgeous, seductive, and high maintenance, with the ability to relieve you of your pay cheque with the alacrity of a lap dancer.
    I hope that you don't mind paying for your fun
    Some were relieved of a good part of an eye socket and a cheekbone too, and had no further worries about money either.
    "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." W.L.S.C..

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    I've never seen or heard of a documented case of a Ross rifle chambered for the .280 Ross failing. The only fatality documented to a Ross chambered for the .280 Ross I'm aware of concerns a hunter in Africa by the name of Grey, who, against instruction, dismounted from his horse, and died in hospital after being mauled by a lion. The .280 Ross was the first true "magnum", and the "cup and core" technology of bullet manufacture wasn't up to the task.

    Kynoch manufactured ammunition in my neck of the woods sells for between $50-$100 for a box of 10 cartridges, and for the most part, is in the hands of collectors. Being Berdan primed, it isn't easy to reload. Even spent cartridges and empty boxes have become collector items. For most, this makes the .280 Ross a hand-loading proposition.

    If you are lucky, you may be able to source newly manufactured brass cases by Quality Cartridge, or Robertson Cartridge Company. Most likely, you will find yourself case forming.
    The .280 Ross uses .287 in. bullets, like the .275 H&H magnum, rather than the European standard for 7mm of .284 in. The only manufacturer I can source is Woodleigh.

    For case forming, the .280 Ross is a stand-alone: a parent case without offspring. The closest match I can find is the new .375 Ruger, which has minor rim and base diameter differences.
    RCBS no longer manufactures loading or case-forming dies for the .280 Ross, leaving the only source I'm aware of being CH4D, a custom die specialist.

    With the odd rifling diameter, combined with the unusual case dimensions, the .280 Ross has become an exotic semi-wildcat cartridge.

    The Ross M-1910 and M-10 chambered for the .280 Ross were always M grade rifles, and could compete with the finest rifles manufactured in Europe.

    That's gorgeous, seductive and high maintenance enough for my tastes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NORTHOF60 View Post
    Even spent cartridges and empty boxes have become collector items.
    I have ONE cartridge that came in a mass of over 600 rds of mixed .303. It's about the only one that I've ever come across so it's now cleaned up and safe. It's a boxer primed case I think...soft point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    I have ONE cartridge that came in a mass of over 600 rds of mixed .303.
    I honestly don't know how to respond to that, even though I feel a need to acknowledge your achievement. Rather like the scene from the TV series Detectorists, where Lance Stator finds gold.
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    Well, it WAS surprising to find amongst the .303s.
    Regards, Jim

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    Have to agree, so far I'm in pretty deep for wanting to fire this thing, $1500 NZicon for the rifle, $300 for dies, $100 for a box of Hornady .375 Ruger brass (really easy to from with a bit of practice pics attached), and I'm sure many dollars for the projectiles when our NZ agent for Woodleigh gets around to ordering them for me.

    NORTHOF60: Have to agree, I have fired 100s of rounds out of my 3 M-10s in .303 with no issues. Have 100% tried to assemble the bolt wrong and succeeded but its so plainly obvious its assembled wrong I have no idea how you could make the mistake. Admittedly I was in my garage, not a trench being fired at in knee deep mud.... That said if there has ever been a civilian use bolt failure I would be highly surprised.
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    It would be interesting to see documented Ross failures, civilian and military.

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