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    Quote Originally Posted by NORTHOF60 View Post
    I understand that the Browning Automatic Rifle employs oiling pads in the magazine to aid extraction.
    Don't know where you got that, I owned three from all three eras of manufacture and none of the many magazines had any oiling pads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    Don't know where you got that, I owned three from all three eras of manufacture and none of the many magazines had any oiling pads.
    I honestly don't recall the source. I thought that it was odd at the time, because I was instructed to keep a firearm chamber clean to oil to minimize bolt thrust, but as the M1918 BAR and it's variants are capable of fully automatic fire, and extraction is a major concern, I just mentally filed it away. If the information is incorrect, thanks for the clarification. I also read that some ammunition was waxed to aid extraction - is that incorrect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NORTHOF60 View Post
    I also read that some ammunition was waxed to aid extraction - is that incorrect?
    This is off topic to the issues relating to the Ross rifle. A quick search answered my own question concerning waxed cartridges:

    http://https://www.thefirearmblog.co...ation-process/

    http://https://patents.google.com/patent/US2972947A/en

    http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSnwsSlu7Sk

    Finally located the reference to lubricating pads in magazines: the Thompson Automatic Rifle, not the 1918 BAR:

    https://patents.google.com/patent/US1322271

    RIA: Thompson Model 1923 Autorifle Forgotten Weapons

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    http://https://www.thehighroad.org/i...uality.750367/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daan Kemp View Post
    So it seems the horror Ross stories are just that. Good to know, handy to question categorical statements in future.
    Depends which stories you mean. Blow-backs did happen, but AFAWK, only due to misassembly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post
    Depends which stories you mean. Blow-backs did happen, but AFAWK, only due to misassembly.
    I've read that it is easier to find a Ross Mk III with the bolt "safety rivet", than one without. You don't go to that much effort to prevent misassembly unless there is a definite problem - even if the modification is only to bolster user confidence. It will always be the "elephant in the room" with the Ross Mk III.
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