I will side with aragorn243 a lot of the 30`s were relegated to school use, student training. So the weapon most were converted to blanks, However some were not, heed the warnings of barrel and chamber, needs to be rifled, smooth bores were the blanks like the type 38 many came from factory as blanks for school uses, ended up in uneducated hands doing serious damage to the shooter and the Arisakaicon name.