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    Also No evidence of hammer marks that indicate removal or placement on an actual rifle. Bottom to uniform. No rust or heavy nicks.:thrown:
    Milling marks missing . too uniform a surface patina. on and on.... see Flip Sight Markings - The Carbine Collector's Club

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    I think it was BQ years ago who pointed out that when these guns went through a rebuild, all flips were removed and replaced with Type 2 and 3 adjustable. The removed flips were to be retained for possible future use. So somewhere there might be a number of removed sights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveHH View Post
    So somewhere there might be a number of removed sights.
    Maybe here in the States and Over Seas....... But none listed by Ole Blackhawk !

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    It's curious, a lot of Carbine parts I get my hands on in the UKicon come from Franceicon and Italyicon, Walnut and beech stocks etc.

    I would think the availability of early parts would largely depend on how many early Carbines were left in Europe after WW2.

    My understanding is that virtually the entire stock went through post war rebuild in the US and large quantities of these went back to Europe under the Marshall program.

    Why would poor foreign operators bother sourcing the parts and upgrading donated rifles to the latest spec when they worked perfectly well in the first place?

    It also begs the question of what happened to all those push button safeties, type 1 and 2 bands and L flip sights, considering they were made in the millions!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrclark303 View Post
    It also begs the question of what happened to all those push button safeties, type 1 and 2 bands and L flip sights, considering they were made in the millions!
    When parts came off rifles in the military they have been superseded and have no further value. No one up in the armorers shop see's value and they have no where to store them anyway. They just go into the garbage. I remember seeing carbines here in the '70s that had all the early features, that was long after the rebuild program after WW2. Push safeties, flip sights, "I" cut stocks...type one bands, flat bolts. That was just what you could see...without stripping. This was in the pawn shops in Vancouver and we went over some weekends on shopping trips looking for carbines. They were there by the rack full, Lever arms and Century arms were moving them at the time.
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    His uncle probably was from Chicago and he routinely walked out of the factory with lunch pails full of them.... or maybe he found a ammo can full of them in a barn in Normandy. Whose to say


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    Many of the barrel bands are cut down type 3 bands. The rear sights seem to remind me of old what's his name over on the left coast river bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce McAskill View Post
    Many of the barrel bands are cut down type 3 bands.


    If the seller is talented enough to cut down a Type III Bayo band and make it in to a Type I Band, I'm a Buyer.
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