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    No 4 Mk 1 T sniper

    Asking about my scope that does not match to my rifle. By the way I am looking for scope number 19908.

    scope TEL:STG: No32. Mk 2/1
    U.I.C. O.S. 1400 G.A.
    No 37
    Can I get some info on this scope and if anyone needs this number for there rifle let me know.
    scope can #F37202
    scope mount #B38415 JC
    top of but stock #19908
    rifle #H32882 M47C 1944 TR with the T stamp on the side. All other numbers match but does not have the S51 stamp on the but stock. Any info would be great and thanks.

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    It looks like you have an interesting scope. It is a hybrid between the No32 Mk2 & Mk3, called the Mk2/1. It is essentially a Mk2 scope with Mk3 Range & Deflection drums fitted. Some existing Mk2 scopes were converted to Mk2/1 configuration after WW2 but your scope was made as a 2/1 buy the United Instrument Company, which percieved wisdom says was a branch of the famous Vickers manufacturing concern. They were produced in modest quantity during 1944, but did not go into larger scale production presumably because of the arrival of the definitive Mk3 scope design in the autumn of 1944, which was cheaper to produce. The OS 1400 refers to the 'Optical Stores' part number, which was unique to each Mark of optical device used by Britishicon & Dominion forces.

    The number on your scope bracket indicates the serial number of the rifle it was originally mated to, & the serial on the scope tin indicates likewise, although they are both unfortunately mis-matched to your rifle. Incidentally, all three rifle numbers that you list would be 1944 BSA produced rifles.

    Hope this helps a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Payneicon View Post
    It looks like you have an interesting scope. It is a hybrid between the No32 Mk2 & Mk3, called the Mk2/1. It is essentially a Mk2 scope with Mk3 Range & Deflection drums fitted. Some existing Mk2 scopes were converted to Mk2/1 configuration after WW2 but your scope was made as a 2/1 buy the United Instrument Company, which percieved wisdom says was a branch of the famous Vickers manufacturing concern. They were produced in modest quantity during 1944, but did not go into larger scale production presumably because of the arrival of the definitive Mk3 scope design in the autumn of 1944, which was cheaper to produce. The OS 1400 refers to the 'Optical Stores' part number, which was unique to each Mark of optical device used by Britishicon & Dominion forces.

    The number on your scope bracket indicates the serial number of the rifle it was originally mated to, & the serial on the scope tin indicates likewise, although they are both unfortunately mis-matched to your rifle. Incidentally, all three rifle numbers that you list would be 1944 BSA produced rifles.

    Hope this helps a little.
    Thank you very much any information is great. Maybe someone out their can find a match with the numbers I gave out by the way this rifle shots very nice.

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    You can post in the Angels match making service thread and you may get lucky. I posted looking for the can to my rifle two years ago with no results but that doesn't mean it can't happen. I hope you may be able to find your matching set!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Btl1994 View Post
    You can post in the Angels match making service thread and you may get lucky. I posted looking for the can to my rifle two years ago with no results but that doesn't mean it can't happen. I hope you may be able to find your matching set!
    Thanks I did so we will see what happens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernie6767 View Post
    Thanks I did so we will see what happens
    It worked for me, my No4T was bought in an Auction, an eagle eyed member noted my call for the correct the scope and seen the scope on another forum......






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    Thats why this site far eclipses others due to the help given freely to all members by other members good for you BD6 in getting the correct scope for your T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CINDERS View Post
    Thats why this site far eclipses others due to the help given freely to all members by other members good for you BD6 in getting the correct scope for your T.
    It was mated with the rifle some back Ron, it certainly wasn't easy getting it to the UKicon, I have to thank another Forum member for that, who was in the right place at the right time........ good job he never got a cavity search coming through customs...........


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    Guess the turrets would have been the hardest part too insert!!!!!!! Yikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigduke6 View Post
    It was mated with the rifle some back Ron, it certainly wasn't easy getting it to the UKicon, I have to thank another Forum member for that, who was in the right place at the right time........ good job he never got a cavity search coming through customs...........
    I believe that particular forum member walked through customs like John Wayne after a 10 hour ride through the prairies.........
    He also brought back a Weaver M73B1 for his 1903A4.
    As I understand........

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