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    Enjoy your original rifle zh75. Fast service and a definitive answer.

    Hardness tester marks on underside of LB receiver - two different sizes no less.
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    I need to add that I was wrong about it being reblued. The finish appears original after a closer look. The heat discoloration on the bolt body was a concern but I see nothing that tells me it's been worked on by anyone other than real Armourers. Guessing the bolt left the factory that way and yes, I've seen it before on a few Canadianicon blued bolts. It just wasn't as prevalent looking.

    Rob, I've had several original ROF Maltby service rifles with the serial numbers stamped on the top of the wrist. I have a couple of 1941 and a 1942 in my collection that are so marked. I've had a very few marked post war Maltby FTR's. I think they were closed in 1946 if memory serves. This one isn't a full FTR as it sports original blue finish. Did ROF Maltby repair rifles post WW2 but not necessarily put them through a full blown FTR? Maybe someone else can elaborate. It could have been repaired at a European workshop too. I had Greek owned Long Branch rifles that certainly were. They were refinished with a deep dip blue finish, not Parkerizing and Suncorite paint. Either way, it just feels honest and I wouldn't change a thing. The stamped serials on this rifle are not done by a civilian but after it was restocked. It still has it's original LB buttstock but the forend is a Britishicon walnut replacement as is the front handguard. I didn't take the handguards off so not sure about the rear one. I took off his M1icon Rifle front sling swivel and Chicom M1 sling. I'll send them back in a ziplock bag. I can't bring myself to put them back on!

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    I have to correct myself again. The forend is original Canadian walnut. It was roughly block sanded before being numbered and if you look real hard, the original Canadian batch markings are still visible. Just a good, honest service rifle that's been legitimately worked on.

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    I need to add that I was wrong about it being reblued. The finish appears original after a closer look. The heat discoloration on the bolt body was a concern but I see nothing that tells me it's been worked on by anyone other than real Armourers. Guessing the bolt left the factory that way and yes, I've seen it before on a few Canadianicon blued bolts. It just wasn't as prevalent looking.

    Rob, I've had several original ROF Maltby service rifles with the serial numbers stamped on the top of the wrist. I have a couple of 1941 and a 1942 in my collection that are so marked. I've had a very few marked post war Maltby FTR's. I think they were closed in 1946 if memory serves. This one isn't a full FTR as it sports original blue finish. Did ROF Maltby repair rifles post WW2 but not necessarily put them through a full blown FTR? Maybe someone else can elaborate. It could have been repaired at a European workshop too. I had Greek owned Long Branch rifles that certainly were. They were refinished with a deep dip blue finish, not Parkerizing and Suncorite paint. Either way, it just feels honest and I wouldn't change a thing. The stamped serials on this rifle are not done by a civilian but after it was restocked. It still has it's original LB buttstock but the forend is a Britishicon walnut replacement as is the front handguard. I didn't take the handguards off so not sure about the rear one. I took off his M1icon Rifle front sling swivel and Chicom M1 sling. I'll send them back in a ziplock bag. I can't bring myself to put them back on!

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    I have to correct myself again. The forend is original Canadian walnut. It was roughly block sanded before being numbered and if you look real hard, the original Canadian batch markings are still visible. Just a good, honest service rifle that's been legitimately worked on.
    Thank you Brian, forgot to include the correction you sent last night, my apologies! And thank you for taking off the swivel and sling, they were going to come off at some point so saved me a little work. Can't say enough good things about your level of service & info that you provided me on the rifle.

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    Interesting Brian; did those rifles with the SN added to the wrist have any indications of a common post-war service? How did that Greek refinish compare to Dulite blue?
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    The three ROF Maltby rifles all have it. I know they've been inspected and cleaned prior to reserve storage but they strike me as pretty much factory original. I also have a ROF Fazakerley, ('43 date), that has been serviced, got a coat of paint and the stock cleaned in service post war. The matching serial number is present on the top of the wrist too but it's been scraped and sanded during post war servicing.

    The Greek bluing is kind of a flat but dark blue/black finish. I have some 1903 Springfields that were returned from Greece by the CMPicon and they sport the same dark blue/black finish. Dulite is a much lighter shade of blue or more of a blue-grey over a sand blasted surface like Savage No.4 bodies.

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