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    16!. Now that's 20,922,789,888,000 ways to display them. Just 7 trillion possibilities less than the national debt. Build another rack, fill it with rifles, and you can take the lead. Debt won't be likely to catch up for at least a few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    That rack you built seems full. Maybe you should have done a double decker or twice as long? Guess I need a borescope too.
    Collecting can become a very space-intensive hobby for sure! I was actually building two racks last time, so I've got a spare one in reserve, but that won't last long. After that, I think I'm just going to stick them up on the walls all over the house lol.

    Definitely get a borescope. I think 4 or 5 more rifles and I break even on the cost. It's completely changed my concept of rifle cleaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssgross View Post
    Just 7 trillion possibilities less than the national debt.
    I don't think I can buy guns anywhere near as fast as our government spends money. That said, a $600 Corona check could buy a pretty nice rifle. A $1200 check could be both a rifle and ammunition.

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    Turkish 1893

    I don't know if "clean" and "Turkishicon" can really be used together when discussing the condition of milsurp Mausers. Maybe I'm just unlucky when it comes to these particular rifles.

    This is an 1893 rechambered in 8mm, that sits in a 1903 Mauser stock. The date (1939) isn't the manufacture date, which is unknown, but rather it's the date this rifle was refurbished at Ankara.

    This particular rifle concerns me. The tang of this rifle has been blown out, but equally concerning is the crazy-glued crack coming off the cross bolt at the recoil lug. Combine these two issues with the cracking at the trigger guard, and I'm going to guess that, if and when I remove the action, there's some pretty bad damage underneath.

    I'm going to say this gun is unsafe to shoot at this time.



    No need for bore pics on this one - I don't think it needs them. I may actually start different thread just on this rifle, assuming that there's any point. Originally I was going to try to repair this stock, but now I think it's just a straight replace.

    I do have another 1893 that's in much better condition - I may post that one here also, but not tonight. Before I'm done with trying out this borescope, I want to post the good, bad and the ugly, and haven't really hit the later ones yet. Don't worry, I've got a few bad ones lying around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrandig View Post
    First up is my Yugoicon refurbished K98icon Preduceze 44.
    Editorial note: I do realize that I spelled this wrong at least a half-dozen times. "Preduzece" should be the correct spelling. Foreign languages are hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrandig View Post
    No need for bore pics on this one - I don't think it needs them.
    After some thought, I decided why the hell not?

    I was looking for some pics of bad bores, so here's a few of the Turkishicon Mauser posted above. Same views as before, the first pic is at the throat, 1/3 bore, 2/3 bore and muzzle.



    That is one ugly baby. I actually don't know if these pics are in order, as I can hardly tell what I'm looking at. I see cosmolineicon, fouling, rust, lint and who knows what else. There's not much rifling that I can see.

    I'm going to try cleaning this, just because I'm a glutton for punishment, and see what happens...
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    Turkish Cleaning

    I have to run some errands today, so I'm just going to prop the Turkishicon Mauser up against my work bench and shoot some foaming bore cleaning down the barrel. I will check later. This probably isn't not going to help much, but it doesn't take any time or labor to try.

    The catch/drip pan that the rifle sits on is of my own design. It is a to-go container from Olive Garden with a paper towel insert. I hoard these containers, as they have a lot of other uses, besides take away.



    I will actually make an effort to properly clean later.

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    aha...so there is a limit to what your wife will let you do with guns on the kitchen counter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrandig View Post
    Here's a post WWII Yugoicon M48. This was manufactured post-war at the same plant where the Preduceze 44 was refurbished (Institute 44), and its actually a very similar rifle, but about 1" shorter. I bought this from the same source as the other rifle, so my hopes are also pretty high.

    Attachment 114143Attachment 114144Attachment 114145

    I'm going to try the same shots as before, maybe this time with a steadier hand. Throat, 1/3 bore, 2/3 bore, muzzle.



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    Sweet! This is a very nice bore. Feel free to comment everyone, but I'd almost wonder if this rifle had ever been fired before.
    That is really a great bore!
    I agree, looks almost Unfired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssgross View Post
    aha...so there is a limit to what your wife will let you do with guns on the kitchen counter!

    The Mrs. has been a saint so far, but I can see that I'm going to clean up some. The pictures don't capture the kitchen table, kitchen pantry, hall closet, bedroom closet, extra room, etc. In addition, I have a lot of reloading supplies, so there's that also. I don't think she'll let me keep the 5 gal. buckets of used brass in the house.
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