getting old, need to down size my collection.

[J-ROD]

I looked at the pictures on the other post and the mum was cancelled out as is customary when taken out of service and used as a school trainer. Once cancelled, it’s not as collectible as a full mum’d rifle.

Depends on the collector but some will take a ground mum over a trainer as ground meant it was still in survive at the surrender. A cancelled trainer can still be shot if if it’s serviceable but again...it depends on the collector.

[jangle]

I looked on gunbroker, they range from 200 to 1800, quite a range, I think mine looks better than the 1800 one, least the mum is better too.

As others have said, your rifle had been removed from service and re-issued for school use for a reason....it was worn out, period!

It was built in the 1912 time frame at the Tokyo Artillery Arsenal in Koishikawa district, (not the Kokura factory and not a 20th series as indicated in your photo shoot). If it is matching, every numbered part will match the 1-3 digit number stamped on the bottom of the receiver at the recoil lug location. Does it hold some value, yes, to the person who might be looking for a worn out service rifle converted to school use. It is not a highly desirable collectable.

Since you have not placed it in the for sale section of this board over the last three weeks, I assume you are trolling for bidders. I, along with others would advise you to place it for sale on GunBroker or Gun Auctions, with no reserve, in the appropriate category with lots of photos of every part and marking that you can find. It will then bring the fair market value of several thousands of potential buyers. Your question of what is it worth will then be solved. I hope you find this information useful.

Regards

[browningautorifle]

place it for sale on GunBroker or Gun Auctions, with no reserve, in the appropriate category with lots of photos

Agreed, the very best way. Then let the chips fall...

[ronnieboy]

i would like for all my rifles to be this worn out, yes the mum has a school stamp, not a big bar or file stamp. i feel you are wrong . The gun works perfectly. has much rifleing, and solid stock. I dont have to sell it. I thought someone would like to have this weapon of Japan. Sorry , i was wrong. .I definately NOT going to give it away as you suggest on gb. And, i didnt know anything about a forsale section . I dont do this for a hobby or a living.

[browningautorifle]

I dont have to sell it.

I'm sure I'm missing something here. I think if you look on some of the sites and see what others exactly like it are selling for, then put an ad on our WTS forum...someone will approach you. I'm surprised several people haven't already contacted you to buy it.

[ssgross]

I definately NOT going to give it away as you suggest on gb.

Where are all these rifles being given away on gunbroker? Where do I find them?

If you won't sell it at auction with no reserve, and don't have any idea what you want for it, people most likely will not magically give you an offer you will be happy with. Watch the auction for a couple weeks...put every similar rifle that comes up on your watchlist so you can see the final price. Pick somewhere around the median as your starting price, or whatever you would be happy getting, and sell it at auction if you want to make as much as you can, or post your price here in the WTS.
Maybe you have no inquiries because many people shy away from sellers that operate on a "...how much would you give me for it..." model. It's the easiest way to get suckered - especially if the buyer is new to a certain model. I prefer business with honesty on both sides. Thank God the Quakers invented price tags.

[echo1]

I think the gun laws in Japan would prohibit it, but if you like I know a few Japanese nationals in Japan and I can ask if there is a way to return the rifle. I'm big on history BUT, the reason I'm interested in the rifle is because my Grandfather and uncle fought in the pacific war. My Grandfather landed on the Island of Tinian, Saipan, and Guam (SEABEES); One uncle (US Army) was on the Philippine Island of Cebu fighting as a Gurellia after the US forces were overrun. I had another uncle (US ARMY) fighting in the European campaigns.
I doubt that I could afford such a rifle in all honesty.

I've got a T38 that my uncle liberated we they came ashore in New Guinea. He and my pops we in the 1st Filipino Regiment, Alamo Scouts. My uncle, Al, gave it to me in 1960, and like a stupid kid, I cut the barrel and stock. I've just located the parts to clone a short rifle and salvage some honor for my uncle. Of all my wood & steel, this is one of my most cherished possessions. PAX

[usabaker]

He and my pops we in the 1st Filipino Regiment, Alamo Scouts.

I wonder if your uncle and dad ended up on CEBU, might have crossed paths with my grand uncle. When the Japanese attacked the Philippines on December 8, 1941 my grand uncle was 24 years old and was working on the Island of Cebu planting Corn. Cebu was one of the initial islands assaulted and captured by the Japanese in the first wave of the invasion of the Philippines. My grand uncle, like many others, was trapped on the island, and like other Filipinos and US Military men who refused to surrender he joined the fight against the invading Japanese forces as a Guerilla fighter. These Guerilla fighters reported US Army officers who refused to surrender or escaped from the Japanese and were part of the Philippine Commonwealth Army of the United States Armed Forces Far East (USAFFE) before it was disbanded in 1942. My grand-uncle served with the Philippine Guerrillas; 85th. Regiment, First Battalion Section Medical as a medical assistant.