+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 28

Thread: 1947 No 5 Mk 1 resurrection attempt (parts needed)

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    Really Senior Member HOOKED ON HISTORY's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 03:56 PM
    Location
    MS/USA
    Posts
    3,673
    Local Date
    08-03-2021
    Local Time
    06:29 AM

    1947 No 5 Mk 1 resurrection attempt (parts needed)

    This No 5 followed me home recently The least butchered of the two I was offered.
    No real need for a heart transplant as all the serial numbered parts save the magazine match. Just a little cosmetic surgery. I thought the barrel had been cut as the crown looks boogered.
    I don't think she was fired much as it is quite clean with as nice a set of timber as I have seen.
    The previous owner installed Williams sights but most of the the bubba holes should be covered by the upper handguard and flash hider. The missing handguard should be easily replaced with a modified #4. I have a repro flash hider I polished most of the casting marks out of which will do if I cant find an original. I see some rear 800m sights on e-bay etc.. which I fear may be reproductions.
    Any advice as to were to obtain an original flash hider and or 800m rear sight would be appreciated.

    Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	No 5 Mk 1 9-47 F  AC1396.JPG‎
Views:	229
Size:	1.11 MB
ID:	114991   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN4060.jpg‎
Views:	229
Size:	754.7 KB
ID:	114992  

  2. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Posts
    All Threads
    Banner AD Space Available - Click HERE to Inquire LIMITED TIME OFFER FROM THE AMERICAN GUNSMITHING INSTITUTE: Get Immediate Online Access To AGI's NEW Armorer's Course for Glock Pistols, Covering Every Generation of Glocks, Including the Latest Model 42/43 and Double Stack Pistols for ONLY $7.00! Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Chuck in Denver ... Buy-Sell-Trade .. Guns, Cars Motorcycles Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  3. #2
    Senior Member BurtonP's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2019
    Last On
    07-30-2021 @ 03:05 PM
    Location
    Calgary
    Posts
    153
    Local Date
    08-03-2021
    Local Time
    05:29 AM
    Ooh, I've been looking for real flash hiders for 3 No5s, without luck. I settled for repros from Numrich after looking for ages. I've even considered welding missing sight protectors and bayonet lugs back on.
    The sight should be easy to find, they seem to be more common on Ebay than No4 ladder sights for some reason. I suppose look for stamps on the Ebay versions to indicate repro or not.
    If anyone has a small stash of these parts, I'm interested too.
    Cheers,
    Burton

  4. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  5. #3
    Advisory Panel browningautorifle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    Today @ 12:48 AM
    Location
    Victoria BC
    Posts
    26,023
    Local Date
    08-03-2021
    Local Time
    04:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by HOOKED ON HISTORY View Post
    I thought the barrel had been cut as the crown looks boogered.
    I think the muzzle is OK, just messed with. Wouldn't matter so much as the FH covers it all. You may as well go ahead with the fitting of the repro FH as even one you buy as original may be spurious. Sights are available...on open market.
    Regards, Jim

  6. #4
    Really Senior Member HOOKED ON HISTORY's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 03:56 PM
    Location
    MS/USA
    Posts
    3,673
    Local Date
    08-03-2021
    Local Time
    06:29 AM
    Thread Starter
    I think I used up all my good luck when I found this one for another rifle. It was sitting on a table at a gun show. I almost fainted. Notice properly marked and no pin holes. What are the odds? I think the repros will look a lot better with the casting marks polished out. We shall see.
    Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN3683.JPG‎
Views:	170
Size:	1.73 MB
ID:	115005  

  7. #5
    Advisory Panel browningautorifle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    Today @ 12:48 AM
    Location
    Victoria BC
    Posts
    26,023
    Local Date
    08-03-2021
    Local Time
    04:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by HOOKED ON HISTORY View Post
    no pin holes.
    From what I understand they were fitted, drilled and pinned in one rush. A new original to me would be void of holes. Yours is even marked to Shirley. You'd need to jig it up so it would stay vertical and aligned while it was drilled. They used taper pins too... Don't know how the new repros will be, I've heard bad things.
    Regards, Jim

  8. #6
    Member 72 usmc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Last On
    07-28-2021 @ 08:49 AM
    Location
    Menomonee Falls, WI
    Posts
    48
    Local Date
    08-03-2021
    Local Time
    06:29 AM
    Libertytreecollectors has some of the parts you need, but boy prices have risen in the last 15 years>
    see https://www.libertytreecollectors.co...idCategory=128

    On flee bay there is currently a JC aftermarket hand guard from Canadaicon. Only one.
    Last edited by 72 usmc; 02-08-2021 at 08:02 PM.

  9. #7
    Really Senior Member Bruce_in_Oz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 06:05 AM
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    2,074
    Local Date
    08-03-2021
    Local Time
    06:29 AM
    If the replacement flash-hider is a good fit on the barrel, making it stay put for drilling / reaming the pin holes is straightforward.

    Get yourself a small bottle of Loctite 290 (Super Wick-in) It does what it says on the label. It is runny like water. Once the mating surfaced have been thoroughly degreased, (I use Carby cleaner and finish with Acetone or lacquer thinners), get everything lined up and assembled exactly as required.

    Apply several drops of 290 to the junction between the barrel and the flash-hider and CAREFULLY place it somewhere to set for the next 24 hours. It actually takes less time than that to set fully, but, why rush it?

    If you are cutting NEW holes in the barrel, do NOT use an ordinary twist drill bit to get started. The ideal tool is an end mill of suitably small size, applied to the larger end of the proposed pin hole. Do not even think about doing this job by hand. A rigid machine and a firmly fixed vise are minimum requirements. Once you have the "flat:" successfully machined, change that cutter out for a drill bit a little smaller than the "exit hole on the other side. As for tapered pins, there are Imperial and Metric sizes. Decide what you need and ensure yo have a tapered reamer that matches .

    WITHOUT changing the setup of the machine and vise, ream out the hole, initially a little smaller than indicated by a test run with a tapered pin. Pins are usually much longer than required. Once finally fixed, lop the excess (those dinky Dremel cutting wheels are good), and clean up. Gently drive in a pin and then do the other hole. Tiny tapered pins do not need to be bashed in with a sledgehammer, nor do you want to distort the barrel.

    In many non-cosmetic, not highly stressed applications, tapered pins can be replaced by nested roll pins, but that's another story.

  10. The Following 2 Members Say Thank You to Bruce_in_Oz For This Useful Post:


  11. #8
    Advisory Panel breakeyp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 07:20 AM
    Location
    near Detroit Michigan
    Age
    75
    Posts
    919
    Local Date
    08-03-2021
    Local Time
    07:29 AM
    Pin size/taper can be determined by taking a set of number drills and using them on both sides to determine the difference in diameters. A machinist can then cut the taper on a lathe.

  12. #9
    Really Senior Member HOOKED ON HISTORY's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Last On
    Yesterday @ 03:56 PM
    Location
    MS/USA
    Posts
    3,673
    Local Date
    08-03-2021
    Local Time
    06:29 AM
    Thread Starter
    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    I've heard bad things.
    All true.

  13. Thank You to HOOKED ON HISTORY For This Useful Post:


  14. #10
    Senior Member pisco's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Last On
    07-02-2021 @ 04:36 AM
    Location
    aiustralia
    Posts
    156
    Local Date
    08-03-2021
    Local Time
    10:29 PM
    I’m actually surprised no one has started making flash hiders with all the Cnc machines

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. 1947 Parts Identification Lists (Webley and Enfield Revolvers)
    By Badger in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 09-16-2008, 07:42 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts