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    No4 serial Number

    I just received this No4. The paperwork says it is a Mk II . It came in a Big 5 box listing the original sale price as $139.99. It appears that the rifle has not been fired since it was placed in the box (lots of dust, all of the lubricants have solidified into sludge, moving parts difficult to move, etc.). The serial number listed on the box matches the number on the receiver above the import mark, but there is a different number on the left wrist. Can anyone advise why there are 2 numbers and which one is the actual serial number? Thank you for you assistance.




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    Also, can someone please advise what the this attachment below the front barrel band is for? Thanks again!


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    The "CC" number on the buttsocket is the original manufacturers serial number.

    It was manufactured by Royal Ordnance Factory Fazakerley (Nr Liverpool Englandicon)
    It has an "A" suffix which shows that somewhere on the rifle is a non-standard part which had to be hand fitted.
    The Fazakerley quality control was not good so things like 'holes drilled out the wrong size' was not unusual.

    The 'number' on the side of the body was probably a serial number issued by the importer who didn't know where to look for the 'proper' number.
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    Thank you sir! Any ideas reference the the attachment below the muzzle?

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    That device is a non Britishicon Military modification used as a piling swivel to stack rifles in groups of 3 standing up.

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    Agree with Bindi. I'm not sure, but suspect I may have read somewhere that the Turks used them.

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    I'd have a gecko at the draws as in pic #2 there is a longitudal crack heading forwards in front of the tie plate, may be nothing but still worth having a look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singer B View Post
    I just received this No4. The paperwork says it is a Mk II . . .
    The tie-plate and receiver marking "No4 Mk1 ROF(F)" indicate this rifle is a Mk1, not a Mk2.

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    Flog it and find one without those fugly import markings is my advice.

    Pull that silly projection off and the muzzle band can at least be reset between the pins and tightened properly.
    "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." W.L.S.C..

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    I suspect the addition of a piling swivel, (or rod in this case) makes the rifle likely to be one of those released by the Italianicon navy a couple of years ago.
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