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    They announced yesterday that all mask mandates in Pennsylvania will end with or without 70% of the adult population vaccinated on June 30th. It will then be safe. OK, how do you know it will be safe. What makes June 30th different than June 15th or July 15th? This is a prime example of why this whole mess has been nothing but a political football. Last week, the mask mandates would remain in place until 70% of the adults were vaccinated, period. This was to be "incentive" for people to get vaccinated. Now they are saying the June 30 deadline will be "incentive" to get vaccinated. Why? the masks come off no matter what on the 30th.

    Here's the deal. Vaccinated people no longer wear masks. They can't ask you for proof of vaccine so quite a few others are not wearing masks either and the numbers are still plummeting. It's pretty much proving anecdotally that masks accomplish absolutely nothing. Places that mandated them have the exact same overall stats as those that didn't. In many cases, areas with masks are worse. Probably because areas without are more conscious about social distancing which does work.

    Oh, and then there's this. Those that get vaccinated they say now may have lifetime immunity. OK, no evidence of this but why not. Those that actually had Covid should have immunity for at least 10 months. OK, quite possible. BUT, I don't think it is possible to have one without the other. The entire purpose of the vaccine is to produce the antibodies that are produced when you actually have the virus. If you have the virus, your body is going to produce massive numbers of the anti-bodies. If you have the vaccine, your body will produce a small number of the anti-bodies. Make sense to anyone?

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    I expect the Covid vaccine may end up as a yearly jab; like the flu vaccine. Seeing as the virus mutates fairly quickly; I don't think it's done yet. Especially in the poorer countries!

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    Talked to my GP yesterday do not get a choice its the Astra Zeneca or nothing that's how our govt rolls as under 50's can get the Pfizer so its take a chance on what's happened to a few others with the blood clots, the alternate was pretty straight forward as described by my no punches pulled GP "Catch covid and you'll sprout wings".

    So booked in on the 18th June its so nice to have freedom of choice our land may be a great place but we have a govt that is less desirable pretty much their way or the highway not sure but I think they can get the Pfizer or have had it.

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    Catch Covid and you'll sprout wings? It has a 99.9% survival rate for anyone under 50 and a 90% survival rate for those over 78 which is the average age of death. With all the years in between decreasing slightly with age each year.

    That's one of the problems here, 40% of Democrats think they are going to die if they get it. Drops down to about 10% of Republicans but even that's way too high.

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    Statistics don't matter when its someone you know. A good friends son, in his 30s, died two weeks ago. What were the odds? Who fu@king cares. He's gone and nothing will change that. If he had the shot would things have been different? I think they would.

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    Its all a bit worrying a lady who works with my wife her brother caught Covid o/seas where he died of it 49 Y/O yes we can all go on about the spanish flu and past pandemics but it seems this little sucker morphs into stronger more contagious variants extremely quickly and I seriously doubt if we will ever get ahead of it enough to kill it off as it will probably end up a super flu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SNAFU22 View Post
    Statistics don't matter when its someone you know. A good friends son, in his 30s, died two weeks ago. What were the odds? Who fu@king cares. He's gone and nothing will change that. If he had the shot would things have been different? I think they would.
    Or he could have had a reaction to the shot...
    I am not trying to belittle his death in any way but people die. Some young, some old. My wife passed away from breast cancer at the end of 2019 at the age of 43.
    This whole covid thing has been blown up way out of proportion which has caused much more economic, social, and health issues (people not seeking medical attention for other conditions out of fear) than it would have caused had it been handled as per traditional medical protocols (e.g. quarantine SICK people).

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    You have my sympathy MSW2. People do die. 30-40,000 a year in the US from traffic related accidents. So you buy a car with safety features, drive defensively and hope for the best. They say hindsight is 20 20. In my opinion, science will get us past this.
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    First Pfizer jab was great! Really was a surprise; hardly felt it at all.(probably due to the small quantity injected) and no side effects (fever etc) over the weekend for me; just very slight soreness in my arm.
    My wife also got the jab on Friday; no side effects either; but she had more soreness in the arm during the weekend.
    Well worth doing !

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    The “jabbers” have developed such a hand by now...
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