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    UK Deactivated Forearms Registration

    As of yesterday, all privately owned de-acts, not previously registered, must be registered with the Home Office. This requirement has sat dormant for a few years, but the date when all reacts owned before Sept 2018 must be registered came and went on the 14th March 2021.



    I bet this catches out an awful lot of people who have forgotten.


    Notification – possession
    25. Under Regulation 3(1), a person in possession of a deactivated firearm commits an offence unless they have given notice of the deactivated firearm to the appropriate national authority or, where the deactivated firearm has been transferred to the person, the transfer has already been notified by the person transferring it. In most instances this will avoid the need for the same deactivated firearm to be declared twice.

    26. Notice, where required, must be given on or before the day on which the person first possesses the deactivated firearm or, as soon as reasonably practicable after that date. The notice must give a description of the deactivated firearm including, if known, the make, calibre and serial number of the firearm and state the person’s name and address. There is no need to notify if the person is in possession of the deactivated firearm for a period of 14 days or less.

    27. A form is provided for this purpose on GOV.UKicon - Notification of possession of a deactivated firearm to the appropriate national authority.

    28. The required information must then be submitted to: deactivatedfirearmsnotifications@homeoffice.gov.uk or by registered post or recorded delivery to:

    Deactivated Firearms Notifications
    Home Office
    Serious Violence Unit
    5th Floor, Fry Building
    2 Marsham Street
    London
    SW1P 4DF
    29. It is an offence for a person to transfer a deactivated firearm and not give notice of the transfer. Where notice of the transfer is given by the person transferring the deactivated firearm, the person acquiring it does not need to also give notice. However, where a deactivated firearm has been transferred and the person who transferred the firearm did not notify the Home Office of the transfer, the person acquiring the firearm should instead notify.



    30. Where a person to whom a deactivated firearm has been transferred commits an offence under regulation 3(1), it is a defence for that person to show that they reasonably believed that the transferor had given, or would give, notice of the transfer in accordance with the arrangements set out within Regulation 2. A person guilty of an offence under these Regulations is liable to a level 1 fine (£200).

    31. Regulation 4 makes transitional provision in respect of regulation 3 so that where a person came into possession of a deactivated firearm before 14 September 2018, the requirement to notify that deactivated firearm under regulation 3 will not take effect until 14 March 2021.

    32. In practice this means that details of deactivated firearms acquired between 8 April 2016 (the date the EU technical specifications came into effect) and 14 September 2018, and which have remained unaltered ever since do not need to be notified to the appropriate national authority until 14 March 2021. If however at any time before 14 March 2021 a person in possession of a deactivated firearm acquired before 14 September 2018 transfers that deactivated firearm, then they will need to notify the Home Office of the transfer


    https://www.gov.uk/government/public...no2-rules-2019

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    At a loss understanding why you must register a door stop.

    I currently possess three deactivated firearms. Two of them were mailed to my house no questions asked, the third I bought by mistake because it was selling for $50 at an auction and it seemed cheap. I found out why later. Bulgarian M95 with a big oval cut out of the barrel. Found out it was actually a training rifle worth about 2 1/2 times what I paid for it so I was OK with it. I still found a replacement barrel for it "just in case".

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    to make matters worse, it doesn't apply to pre April 2016 deacts, until you transfer them, at which point they must be upgraded to EU standards even though we are no longer in the EU. If they were deactivated after April 2016 but you owned them before Sept 2018 then you now have to register them

    Talk about confusing!

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    Sounds like Brexit did not do much for your legislation in the UKicon!
    That's probably more complicated paperwork than a live bolt action rifle here in Franceicon.

    Next they'll be wanting them kept in a safe!

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    The irony is that we are no longer in the EU and the regulations don't apply if you transfer the 'deact out of the EU, but the legislation remains live in Domestic Law until removed.

    Talk about a clusterfcuk

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    Quote Originally Posted by 30Three View Post
    Sounds like Brexit did not do much for your legislation in the UKicon!
    Hang on a minute, we were in the EU for over 40 years, meaning, rightly or wrongly, over 40 years of EU law taken into UK law. When we finally left the EU we could have removed all EU law from UK law but that would have meant a huge "black-hole" of no law over many areas of UK life. Regardless of what anyone thinks about it and regardless of whether or not anyone in the UK likes it, it is not humanly possible to replace over 40 years of EU law making in the UK, overnight, solely with home-grown, pure, UK law.

    If the EU took over 40 years to produce a vast array of law that was incorporated into UK law then it may be reasonable to assume that it may take another 40 years to produce "pure UK law" to replace it. Judging by the way that some of our politicians pontificate, argue, debate, analyse and argue again it may be reasonable to assume that the time frame could be considerable longer than 40 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying10uk View Post
    Hang on a minute, we were in the EU for over 40 years, meaning, rightly or wrongly, over 40 years of EU law taken into UKicon law. When we finally left the EU we could have removed all EU law from UK law but that would have meant a huge "black-hole" of no law over many areas of UK life. Regardless of what anyone thinks about it and regardless of whether or not anyone in the UK likes it, it is not humanly possible to replace over 40 years of EU law making in the UK, overnight, solely with home-grown, pure, UK law.

    If the EU took over 40 years to produce a vast array of law that was incorporated into UK law then it may be reasonable to assume that it may take another 40 years to produce "pure UK law" to replace it. Judging by the way that some of our politicians pontificate, argue, debate, analyse and argue again it may be reasonable to assume that the time frame could be considerable longer than 40 years.
    How about they just get rid of any laws surrounding deactivated firearms? Why is it needed? The furthest they should go is to differentiate between normal and deactivated firearms and once it has been deactivated that should be it. Having to register a deactivated firearm is like having to register the picture of your grandmother hanging on the wall next to it.

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